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July 21, 2008

Philosophy in the Barnyard

What's Really Wrong With Bestiality

Justin E. H. Smith

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Books and articles discussed in this essay:

John Corvino, "Homosexuality and the PIB Argument," Ethics 115 (2005): 501-34

Cora Diamond, "Eating Animals and Eating People," Philosophy 53 (1978): 465-79.

Lawrence Krader, Social Organization of the Mongol-Turkic Pastoral Nomads (The Hague: Mouton, 1963).

Ruwen Ogien, L'éthique minimale (Bayard, 2006) (contains a fascinating treatment of Kant on masturbation).

Peter Singer, "Heavy Petting" (2001), posted at www.nerve.com. Available here.

Richard Sorabji, Animal Minds and Human Morals: The Origins of the Western Debate (Cornell University Press, 1995).

Cass R. Sunstein and Martha C. Nussbaum (Eds.), Animal Rights: Current Debates and New Directions (Oxford, 2004) (contains the essays by Catharine MacKinnon and Richard Posner cited below).

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I.

Images2It’s exceedingly difficult to know how to broach this interest of mine: if I don’t explain why it interests me, my readers will assume that I have a personal stake in the matter; if I insist that it interests me only as an intellectual challenge, I will no doubt hear that I protest too much. So let me confess at the outset that I am ineed a zoophile, but only in the English sense that I love animals, and not in the French sense that I really, you know, love animals. I believe, much more importantly, that crucial lessons about our conceptualization of animals, and the moral stance we take towards them as a result of the way we conceptualize them, may be learned by an unflinching examination of the supposed moral obstacles to having sex with them. 

Elsewhere, I have argued that most of what we think we may and may not do to or with animals is a result of pre-moral concept formation, and that the subsequent moral explanations we give for why we do x to one species and not another are only ad hoc attempts at rationalizing in moral terms a code of conduct that lies much more deeply in us than any of our commitments to Christian ethics, Kantian ethics, utilitarianism, ‘inalienable rights’, or what have you. Clearly, for example, there can be no account in terms of a consistent ethical theory of why one would placidly accept the factory-farming and brutal slaughter of billions of cattle per year, but then find eating dog meat or rat meat morally abhorrent (the fact that we in turn find dog meat and rat meat abhorrent for very different reasons is a problem we’ll get back to soon enough). Similarly, there is no ethical theory (at least not one that takes animals themselves as morally relevant subjects) on which one could consistently hold that it is a moral transgression against an animal to use it for one’s own sexual gratification, but that it is at the same time morally permissible to slaughter that animal and eat it. 

Better screwed than stewed, is how Dan Savage put this same point, attempting to give voice to the interests of a sheep.  Of course, the presumption that sheep can’t have interests --and along with this that they can’t have life projects, preferences, that they can’t give consent or withhold it-- is one that underlies much of the anthropocentric argument that slaughtering them can’t count as a moral transgression against them. But it is precisely this same point, that sheep are not the sort of creatures that can give consent, that is supposedly one of the most important grounds of our moral prohibition on having sex with them. Theorists attempting to account for the behavior of non-bestial carnivores --i.e., the huge majority of the human race--- seem to want to have it both ways: they invoke the animals’ diminished capacity to have a say in constructing their own life as both a license to kill them --the ultimate withholding of moral concern-- and as generating all sorts of particular obligations to animals, including the obligation not to have sex with them. There’s something fishy about this, and I think I know what it is: our explanations in terms of moral theories of what we can or can't do with animals cannot possibly be made to be coherent, since what we can and can’t do with or to animals has nothing to do with our concern for their status as morally relevant entities, or with their rights, or anything of the sort. 

II.

Not mere things, but not people either, is how Catharine MacKinnon has acerbically characterized the received human view of animals. Certainly, any effort to push animals towards one end of this continuum or the other has generally been rejected as going too far. Thus Descartes’s doctrine of the bête-machine was disputed by nearly all of his contemporaries as extremist and as a violation of common sense, while this doctrine itself constituted a rejection of the extremism of figures such as Girolamo Rorario, the 16th-century Italian author of the treatise That Brute Animals Make Better Use of Reason than Humans. Aristotle accounted for the animals’ intermediacy by appeal to their possession of the sensitive, but not the rational soul; Leibniz, by appeal to their faculty of perception without apperception; and many today, by appeal to their low-grade cognition, without any grasp of the syntax that makes our own thinking so rich and distinctively human. How the grasp of syntax, or the failure to grasp it, is meant to translate into a measure of moral status remains, however, entirely unclear. As Richard Sorabji has noted, “They lack syntax, therefore we may eat them” is hardly a compelling argument.

Arguments have been proferred for the past two centuries to the effect that such and such things may not be done to animals in virtue of the rights these entities have, and that these rights are traceable to what these entities, in themselves, are, to their very natures. But these arguments come very late in a very long history of human coexistence with animals, in which the various things that we do with or to animals have been held to be significant principally in view of their significance for us.  We think of this significance as a ‘moral’ significance, but it seems to be one that arises prior to any moral reflection at all, one that is built into the very concept of animal.  Lists of rules governing contact with animals date back much earlier than animal rights, much earlier than the concept of rights itself, indeed much earlier than philosophy, and it remains the case today that most of what we consider permissible or impermissible to do with or to animal is pretheoretical, and theoretical elaborations of why we ought or ought not do certain things with or to animals tend to look a good deal like medieval philosophical arguments against ‘sodomy’: ad hoc rationalizations, under cover of deductive argumentation, of what is already largely accepted as the status quo.

We learn what animals and humans are, Cora Diamond argues, through "the structure of a life" in which we are here and do this, and they are there and do that.  For example, “we learn what a human being is in --among other ways-- sitting at a table where we [humans] eat them [animals]” (98).  This structure of a life that gives rise to our very concepts of humans and animals is also what defines what it is possible to consider doing to these different sorts of entity.  Thus, there is no concept of a human or an animal independently of our understanding of what we may and may not do in our relation to them. What we may and may not do to a certain sort of entity might eventually be explicated in terms of moral duties, but for Diamond what one may do to a certain kind of thing is simply built into the concept of it, prior to any considerations of a ‘moral’ character in the sense that Singer understands morality.

Concept-formation precedes ‘morality’, and the grasp of a concept just is a grasp of  the various ways in which one may enter into relations with a thing.  The duties we have to human beings, Diamond holds, are a consequence not of the sort of things human beings are, but of the notion that we have of them, and we form our idea of the difference between humans and animals -of the range of things one may do to the different sorts of entity-- in full awareness of the relevant respects in which they are similar to us. Diamond is interested here in accounting for why human beings tend to think it is alright to kill animals and eat their meat even though we are aware of the various respects --neurophysiological, etc.-- in which they are similar to us. Yet a line of reflection similar to Diamond's is also fruitful in attempting to account for why human beings tend to think it is not alright to engage in sexual relations with animals. 

What defines the range of what may appropriately be done to animals --and what makes this range something different from the respective ranges of what one may do to or with plants, humans, and artefacts-- has nothing to do with the animal's innate capacities, but only with the valenced position they occupy in a social system that has always already existed once any effort is made to reflect on it in terms of moral philosophy.  The discovery of the irrelevance of capacities arguments in general gives us occasion to reconsider the true sources of our sense of what it is or is not moral to do to animals. This sense, I believe, is not something separate from our very concept of animal: concept formation consists precisely in learning the range of possible relations with the entity in question.

III.

I would like now to attempt to lay out what I take to be the principal arguments against bestiality, in order then to show, in the following and final section, why all of them so far have missed the mark entirely.

1. Impossibility of consent. We generally take the treatment of an entity as a morally relevant one to be wrapped up with the fact that this entity is of the sort that is capable of having projects for its future.  The sort of entity that can form long term projects is the sort we take to be able to give consent to enter into certain kinds of relations, among these sexual relations. We take it to be wrong to enter into certain relations with entities that might, under other circumstances, give consent, that might be able to say, ‘this is consonant with my conception of how I want my life to unfold,’ but nonetheless are unable to do so at present.  Thus child-molestation and necrophilia can be denounced on the grounds that a potentially project-having creature cannot give consent, due to the fact that one person is approaching another with sexual intentions either too soon or too late. (Necrophilia is a more complicated case, since it is difficult to account for how a dead person can have interests at all that might be violated, but I do not want to pursue this difficulty here.)

There has been precious little discussion of bestiality among moral philosophers, other than one succinct notice in the popular press from Peter Singer, of which the purpose seems more to taunt the mainstream for the vehemence of their opposition to it, rather than to inquire after the reasons for this opposition. Here, Singer’s one criterion for the rightness or wrongness of conduct with an animal is, as in his other writings, whether the animal suffers.  Some men, he notes coolly, decapitate chickens in the middle of raping them.  But, Singer asks, "is it worse for the hen than living for a year or more crowded with four or five other hens in barren wire cage so small that they can never stretch their wings, and then being stuffed into crates to be taken to the slaughterhouse, strung upside down on a conveyor belt and killed? If not, then it is no worse than what egg producers do to their hens all the time." Moreover, Singer continues, “sex with animals does not always involve cruelty.”

What Singer fails to notice, though, is that cruelty is generally not at issue in the way people assess the moral valence of sex with animals. Having sex with a chicken is no worse for the chicken than what is involved in egg production, yet few will deny that sex with chickens is further from what is generally perceived as acceptable behavior than is support of the poultry industry. Singer believes that current practice is not acceptable, and wants to make our moral commitments vis-à-vis animals line up with a reasoned consideration of what animals are. His reasoned consideration leaves him with the conclusion that sex with animals is fine, as long as it does not hurt them, whereas beating them and killing them, insofar as these hurt them, are always wrong. In other words, considering what animals in themselves are leads Singer to the conclusion that the rules governing our actions with them should be the same as those governing our actions with other humans.

MacKinnon for her part sees the inability of animals to consent as one possible source of our prohibilition of bestiality: “Why do laws against sex with animals exist?… Moralism aside, maybe the answer is that people cannot be sure if animals want to have sex with us.  Put another way, we cannot know if their consent is meaningful” (267). But does anyone really think non-violent sexual contact with a non-consenting animal is really bad for it? It seems much more likely that MacKinnon is off the mark here, and that any effort to account for prohibitions on bestiality in terms of protecting the rights of beasts amounts to a gross overstretching of rights talk into areas of the lives of creatures where it clearly does not have any relevance. Singer, though perhaps the most vocal defender of a comportment towards animals that takes seriously the idea that they are rights-bearing entities, to his credit acknowledges that, even if animals have rights, non-violent sexual contact doesn't seem to be a violation of these rights.

Yet the very fact that animals react with such indifference to behavior --namely, sexual behavior-- that in humans is always accompanied by all manner of questions about how this instance of it fits into our lives, about whether it enhances or diminishes our autonomy, whether it is 'good' or not, shows that animals are so very different from humans that it might not be an easy matter at all to extend a concept --that of rights-- from its original application in the human domain all the way to sea-anemones.  A sea-anemone can't be raped, not violently, not statutorily.  It's just not the sort of entity for which this is a meaningful concept to employ. What about a sheep? A sheep could almost certainly be raped violently, but what the creature itself would find objectionable, if I may be permitted to imagine myself into its place, would probably be the violence of it, and not the rape itself. On MacKinnon's thinking, a sheep could also be a victim of statutory rape: it could be ignorant of the harm done to it, yet harmed it would still be.  This strikes me as absurd.

2. The Kantian position: bestiality as masturbation. Most animal protection laws, in any case, do not take animals to be rights-bearers at all, but instead are rooted in a Christian-cum-Kantian ethical theory according to which animals are a sort of simulation of morally relevant entities.  Thus in the US, "only Utah categorizes the laws against sexual contact by humans with animals under cruelty to animals” (MacKinnon, ibid.).  For a Kantian, it is not that beating a dog is really a moral wrong committed against the dog itself, but since beating dogs might serve as a gateway to beating morally relevant humans, it is nonetheless forbidden. "Animals are a means to an end," as Kant says, "and humans are that end."  If behavior towards animals could eventually impact behavior towards humans, it becomes indirectly morally relevant. 

For a strict Kantian, masturbation with the help of a sex toy and bestiality are wrong for exactly the same reason.  Both involve the use of a mere means to an end for one's own self-gratification, and for Kant there could be no ontological difference between the artefact and the animal that might make a moral difference.  The simple act of self-gratification, Kant thinks, means that one also takes oneself as a means to an end, that is, one fails to recognize one's proper human status as an end that cannot be a means.  For this reason, Kant believes that "such an unnatural use of one's sexual attributes" amounts to "a violation of one's duty to himself," regardless of whatever morally irrelevant tools, including animals, might come into play. For Kant, masturbation is so terrible that it does not even deserve to be called by its name. It is worse than suicide, since in suicide one at least displays the fortitude to transform oneself into a non-end once and for all. Masturbation is so infinitely bad that the mere incorporation of an additional tool into the act can't possibly tip the scale any further.

For anyone who is not a strict Kantian (most of us, I think, as far as this question is concerned), tool-aided masturbation and bestiality clearly are different, for the simple reason that sexual contact with an animal, unlike sexual contact with a vibrator, is unavoidably a sexual relation.  A vibrator is a tool, a means to an end, and this end may be fulfilled alone. Even if we are all in disagreement about whether animals have full moral status, we non-Kantians will all agree that an animal is not like a vibrator. It cannot be a tool, but is always a being, and if one has sexual contact with it, one has sexual contact with some sort of other. 

3. Non-mutuality. Some argue that the problem with bestiality is that, even if an animal is undeniably an other, it is still the sort of other that lacks life projects. Thus a sexual relation with an animal can't amount to a shared life project, and --it is presumed-- any morally praiseworthy sexual relation ought to be such a project. Something like this account is often heard in response to the conservative complaint that to permit homosexuality in our society will lead quickly to an 'anything goes' atmosphere in which bestiality, among other perversions, thrives. As Rick Santorum said, once you've got man-on-man sex, why not man-on-dog? 

John Corvino, in a recent article, responds to Santorum's reasoning with a lengthy account of the various respects in which homosexuality differs from 'PIB', that trifecta of unacceptable relations: pedophilia, incest, and bestiality. Corvino's argument to keep bestiality in its traditional place, while helping to promote homosexuality from its (recently) traditional place into a preferable one, is based in the claim that sexual contact with an animal cannot contribute to the development of a meaningful relationship with an other, cannot, by definition, contribute to a profound interpersonal interaction, while a homosexual, intraspecies relationship is as well suited to do so as a heterosexual one. This claim is true, as far as it goes, but it presupposes that such profundity is an intrinsic feature of any morally salutary sexual contact. I'm not saying it's not, but as Corvino himself says, it is the job of philosophers to investigate presuppositions.   

There are all kinds of sexual activity that one could argue are morally salutary, or at least not morally nugatory, that nonetheless do not involve mutual growth and profound interpersonal communication.  Consider Jan Švankmajer's film, Conspirators of Pleasure. This is the story of people who build elaborate machines with which to masturbate. These count as projects, to say the least, and this is to say that masturbation --a form of sexual activity that cannot by definition involve mutual growth or communication, since there is only one person involved-- is not necessarily just a sexual release.  Potentially, one may approach bestiality in the same way in which Švankmajer’s characters approach masturbation, as a project, or even a consuming passion. The rural adolescent with limited options is one thing, the protagonist of Edward Albee's play, The Goat --who falls in love with a goat after looking into its eyes and sensing, deep in his soul, that the beast undersands him-- is quite another.  (We might also consider Roberto Benigni's character in Jim Jarmusch's Night on Earth, who recounts to a priest his past affairs, and how he decided to move on from a watermelon to a sheep after realizing that a meaningful sexual encounter involves a creature "with a soul.") We may say Albee's character is warped, and leave it at that. But --and this is something Albee clearly wants us to consider-- the same point has often been made about homosexual desire, and it behooves the philosopher as well as the playwright to provide an account of what it is about this particular class of entities that makes desiring them something only a warped person could do.   

In any case Santorum was comparing apples and oranges (or maybe something more like apples and orange-hood), since what was at issue in the state of Pennsylvania, where he served as congressman, was not whether men were having sex with men (they were), but rather whether men should be allowed to marry other men. For this, there is no analogous debate regarding human-animal relations, which goes to show how very different are the issues of sex and marriage. We do know that among certain groups of Mongol-Turkic nomads, it is possible to marry inanimate objects. Lawrence Krader tells us that "[a]n unwed mother or a pregnant girl who has no husband is often married to a prayer rug, a tree, a terra-cotta figurine (of a lion, etc.)… The purpose of these anomalous marriages is to give a social standing to the child…  Another form of anomalous marriage is that of an unmarried girl with a belt belonging to a guest who is permitted to cohabit with the girl with a family in accordance with the rules of hospitality." These possibilities do not stem from a prior recognition of the possibility of having sex with the inanimate objects; girls who are married off to statues or to rugs know at the outset that they will not be having sex with their unresponsive spouses. The objects simply function as placeholders in a logic of kinship that requires pairings at all costs, and that makes do with things like statues when there are no men available.

This anthropological datum serves to underline how different the question of possible legal kinship pairings is from the question of possible morally permissible sex acts. This example even suggests the surprising conclusion that we might sooner find a culture that permits marriage to animals than we could find one that permits sex with them. In our culture, of course, marriage is thought (or hoped) to be based on love, and in-love is a state in which people having sex are thought, or hoped, to be. But this is by no means a necessary feature of the concept of marriage in general, or of particular instances of marriage in reality.  At a minimum, to be married is to conceive of oneself, and to be so conceived by one’s society, as being one of the members of a pair. Corvino is right to distinguish the question of sex from the question of legal recognition of a relationship that is seen as ideally involving sex, but again, wrong to presume that the moral status of bestiality derives directly from the objective limits to the reciprocal meaningfulness of an animal-human relationship. Anyway we can grant that sex with a horse will not lead to mutual emotional growth, but Corvino is wrong to take it for granted that such mutuality is a sine qua non of salutary sexual relations (again, it might in fact be a sine qua non, but philosophers don't take things for granted).

4. Fear of hybridism. There is another argument that we should perhaps briefly mention, one that was once very important but that has fallen out of fashion in the light of increased knowledge of the relevant scientific facts. For much of history, one concern about bestiality was that it would lead to monstrous hybrids. The classical moral argument against bestiality thus resembled the one still commonly invoked against incest: it leads to birth defects, and so our morality is a simple reflection of inflexible genetic facts. Richard Posner notes that “[t]he belief… behind making it a capital offense for a human being to have sexual intercourse with an animal --that such intercourse could produce a monster-- was unsound, and showing that it was unsound undermined the case for punishment” (67). Today, we have more or less accepted that it is unsound, as we now know that, for the most part, cross-fertility is not a real possibility. But it is certainly understandable that in the absence of real knowledge of how genetics works, our ancestors might have been truly concerned about the need to police the boundaries of our species by prohibiting bestiality. In this respect, the prohibition on sex with animals would have nothing to do with morality at all, but would simply be an instance of group selection, and the moral accounts given of it simply afterthoughts. 

5. Debasement. Just as Peter Singer had predicted,  the primary mainstream objection to his stance in partial favor of bestiality --if the The New Republic and National Review Online are representative-- is that sex between humans and nonhumans, regardless of the circumstances in which it occurs, is "an offence to our status and dignity as human beings." For Kathryn Lopez of National Review Online, for example, the red flag is any suggestion that "humans ain't nothing special" ("Peter Singer Strikes Again," March 8). Singer notes that the vehemence with which people react to bestiality "suggests that there is another powerful force at work: our desire to differentiate ourselves, erotically and in every other way, from animals." I can also imagine a second version of the debasment argument that would not emphasize the specialness of humans, as does Lopez's version, but instead would locate the wrongness of bestiality in the fact that it is an instance of promiscuity in general.

To invoke the debasing character of bestiality is hardly to make an argument; it is only to give a gut reaction without explaining why the idea of this deed has this effect on the gut. Gut reactions may be the most we can hope for in issues such as this, but I think I have at least an inkling of an explanation of why we might justly call bestiality wrong, an explanation that does not, I hope, amount to either a mere gut reaction (as does 5), nor to a reliance on false scientific beliefs (as does 4), nor a reliance on an unargued presupposition about the minimal conditions of salutary sexual contact (as does 3), nor a reduction of the animal to a morally irrelevant tool, coupled with an implausible argument against self-gratification as a betrayal of human dignity (as does 2), nor a strained invocation of the animal's supposed rights (as does 1). 

IV.

I have already argued that most of what we believe it is permissible or impermissible to do with or to animals arises not from moral reflection, but from pre-moral concept formation, from, as Cora Diamond says, the fact that we are here and do this, and they are there and do that. I think this approach can help us to get to the heart of the matter and to determine what's really so abhorrent about bestiality.

Bestiality is, quite simply, weird. Now I want to make an important theoretical distinction between, on the one hand, the predicate ‘weird’ in this instance, and, on the other hand, predicates such as ‘base’ or ‘vile’ or ‘repulsive’.  ‘Weird’ here means ‘does not fit with our concept of the thing’, a concept that is formed prior to moral reflection.  On this view, then, having sex with an animal is weird in the same way as, say, keeping a watch-pony in the yard, hitching up your German shepherd to plow the field, going to the zoo to look at common house cats, or serving up rat meat. There is nothing ‘morally’ wrong with any of these activities, in the sense that no real harm is done to any creatures (or at least no more harm is done to the rat or the German shepherd than the harm ordinarily permitted when it comes to beasts of burden or beef on the hoof), but they nonetheless make a mess of our usual conceptual distinctions between work animals, food animals, exotic animals, pets, and vermin.

In important respects, pets, vermin, food animals, and work animals are as different from one another as all of them are from human beings. In some cases, the rigidity with which these different conceptual categories determine what we may do with or to animals belonging in them is at least as great as the rigidity with which an entity’s membership in the class of animals determines that we may not have sex with it, or another entity’s membership in the class of humans determines that we may not keep it on a leash. Zoophile pornography is illegal, but largely tolerated, whereas a restaurant that would dare to serve dog meat, in North America, anyway, would be shut right down, even though, I insist again, there is nothing worse in eating a dog than there is in eating a cow. It seems reasonable to suggest, moreover, that the significance of an act of bestiality with a beloved pet is at least as different from, say, one with a sea anemone as it is from one with another human being.  Barnyard bestiality seems already quite different from pet bestiality, and this, we may presume, has to do with the important conceptual difference between food animals and pets. The use of a sea anemone seems barely worth denouncing as bestiality at all, but rather seems more similar to the use of any inanimate sex toy; or to the now legendary purpose to which a cow’s liver was put by Philip Roth’s protagonist in Portnoy’s Complaint.   

Conceptual distinctions between vermin, pet, etc., I think, do the heavy work of determining the range of what we perceive it fitting to do with the differents sorts of animal, prior to any moral reflection about what sort of treatment animals, in view of what they in themselves are, deserve. The conceptual categories into which different sorts of animal are placed have nothing to do with their neurophysiology, their ability or inability to use syntax to generate novel sentences, or their ability or inability to freely give consent. The wrongness involved in an action that betrays a failure to grasp the concept of pet or vermin, in turn, has nothing to do with the perception of harm to the creature.  It has only to do with the perception of harm to the shared conceptual scheme that enables us to give order and meaning to the world around us. No set of rules does more to contribute to this order and meaning than the set that dictates who may have sex with whom or what, when, where, and in what manner. And this is why bestiality is wrong. 

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Justin E. H. Smith really is a philosopher. For an archive of some of his academic work, please visit www.jehsmith.com/philosophy.

For an extensive archive of his non-academic writing, please visit www.jehsmith.com.

 

Posted by Justin E. H. Smith at 04:57 AM | Permalink

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Interesting, though I suspect there may be much more to it than just the conceptual distinctions which you mention.

By the way, often animals clearly want to have sex with us. Before she was neutered, my cat went into heat and her desire for sex with me was unmistakeable: following me around and thrusting her backside against me while literally screaming for it! It was so pathetic that had size allowed I might well have attempted to gratify her! (I am a sucker for that sort of flattery!) Interestingly enough, she knew that I am a male, and did not bother my wife at all.

In any case, let me also start the inevitable posting of puerile comments with the following fact: I have a friend in Islamabad with a famously voracious sexual appetite which he sees no reason to limit to his own species. He is now usually referred to by his circle of acquaintance as "the Silencer of the Lambs." Heh, heh...

Posted by: Abbas Raza | Jul 21, 2008 5:41:40 AM

"Similarly, there is no ethical theory (at least not one that takes animals themselves as morally relevant subjects) on which one could consistently hold that it is a moral transgression against an animal to use it for one’s own sexual gratification, but that it is at the same time morally permissible to slaughter that animal and eat it."

This is flat wrong. It is a well-stated and reasonable philosophical position that we should try allow animals to realize their full potential and God/Evolution-given lifestyle within their ecosystem as much as possible. For example, cows are designed to eat grass, sit in the sun, moo, and be food for predators. As predators, this allows people to raise happy cows in pastures, then to humanely kill them and eat them. It does not allow us to force-feed them antibiotic-filled grain that makes them sick, and it most certainly does not allow us to rape them. (For the reasons you describe.)

For a particularly clear description of this ethical position, see Pollan, M. The Omnivore's Dilemma.

Posted by: Harlan | Jul 21, 2008 6:04:55 AM

I'll get this in really quickly, then I've got a plane to catch.

Harlan: I'm not prepared to say that cows are "designed" to do anything, but in any case in the system of factory-farming, as a matter of fact they do not sit in the sun, eat grass, and moo peacefully. Moreover, even if we are considering a free-range cow, it is difficult for me to understand how killing it does not amount to a violation of its thriving, or integrity, or, if cows are in fact the sort of entities that have rights, how it does not amount to a violation of its rights. Try the same example, ceteris paribus, with a human being. If you knock off a thriving adult, but then plead that you had assured his well-being up until that point, and that you also killed him painlessly, is this not still murder? Why would this be wrong in the human case but not the bovine case? I need arguments.

But the point I was actually making was that IF a cow is the sort of thing whose thriving/integrity/rights could be violated by a quick non-violent sexual brush with a member of another species, then surely it is also the sort of thing the killing of which ought also to give us some moral qualms, right?

Abbas: It's an interesting question whether trans-species sexual desire still preserves the gender-preferences that the desiring beast is likely to hold within its own species. If I recall correctly, Singer describes an orangutan with an erection who charges straight at the female primatologist standing right next to him, while leaving Singer altogether out of the action. Male ape desire for human females is legendary (and Singer gives us the first anecdotal confirmation of its reality) but your cat's robust heterosexuality is the first instance I've heard of non-human females targeting human men. Perhaps you are producing some rare pheromone?

Posted by: Justin | Jul 21, 2008 6:21:16 AM

But since such concepts are to a large degree formed by consensus, would that not mean that the main argument can be used to defend any practice (in this case: not having sex with animals) as long as it is spread widely enough? Suppose living in a society where slavery is normal and the concepts of slaves and masters all too familiar. What would prevent me from following the same line of reasoning:

Conceptual distinctions between masters and slaves, I think, do the heavy work of determining the range of what we perceive it fitting to do with the differents sorts of man, prior to any moral reflection about what sort of treatment people, in view of what they in themselves are, deserve. The conceptual categories into which different sorts of man are placed have nothing to do with their IQ, their ability or inability to look after themselves, or their ability or inability to lead an independent life. The wrongness involved in an action that betrays a failure to grasp the concept of a master and slave relationship, in turn, has nothing to do with the perception of (in)equality of the master and the slave. It has only to do with the perception of harm to the shared conceptual scheme that enables us to give order and meaning to the world around us. Few sets of rules do more to contribute to this order and meaning than the set that dictates how a master should treat his slaves, that a slave should obey his master, ... And this is why abolishing slavery is wrong.

Posted by: WK | Jul 21, 2008 7:17:10 AM

WK, Good point. Let me cut and paste for you what I've already said elsewhere about the slavery analogy:

"Could we not proactively change our concepts, undertaking the major task of naming all the cattle on all the factory farms in the world, thereby reconceptualizing them as pets and making it impossible, conceptually, to consider eating them? Does not something similar to this happen when the humanity of slaves is recognized, and it becomes conceptually impossible for a society to continue condoning the insitution of slavery?

"Diamond responds to this criticism by noting that the treatment of another human as a slave, or an enemy deserving of ‘extermination’, always involves, very literally, dehumanization, that is, the withdrawal from a human being of some of what already constitutes the background idea of human. “Here then the idea,” she writes, “would be that the notion of a slave or an enemy or an outlaw assumes a background of response to persons, and recognition that what happens in these cases is that we have something that we are not treating as what it –in a way—is” (104). The important question that Diamond does not address in this comparison of the concepts of slave and animal is just how much of the constitution of the background idea of the relevant entity is up to us.

"The full answer to a question of this sort is empirical, and not philosophical. We cannot proclaim in an a priori manner that in all cases part of a person’s background concept of human needs to be withdrawn in order to be able to enslave another person, and we cannot conclude, without surveying the vastly different ways in which humans conceptualize animals, whether slaughtering them for meat might not require withdrawing part of the background idea of them. It seems here that, unavoidably, investigation of the actual range of human experience must serve as a guide to what sort of changes we might hope to bring about.

"Singerians have placed their hopes for the abolition of the industrial production of meat on the claim that, with respect to their capacity to suffer pain, animals are no different from the people who eat them. Yet meat abolitionism does not seem to have any prospect of reproducing the great victory the anti-slavery abolitionists enjoyed in the 19th century. What is the explanation of these separate fortunes? One might say that human beings are fundamentally equipped to recognize community with other human beings, and that this sense of community cannot extend much beyond our species’ boundaries.

"But we need to look at these two movements’ fates with a rather wider lens, and not mistake recent local history for destiny. There are plenty of human beings exploited in the world today --indeed many of whom qualify as slaves in the pre-abolition sense-- and plenty of animals protected from the fates of industrially slaughtered cattle and pigs. Again, there are all sorts of rules for what we may and may not do to members of subclasses of humans and animals --subclasses such as pet, sacred cow, beast of burden, employee, student, and spouse-- but the simple question of whether a creature is a human or an animal does not seem to be the most informative one in learning what these rules are."

Posted by: Justin | Jul 21, 2008 7:39:03 AM

Having sex with a sheep would do no harm to the sheep, but might harm your reputation with your neighbors.

Posted by: Jared | Jul 21, 2008 9:37:38 AM

Justin,

Very interesting essay. My hunch is that the question of consent matters more to philosophers than to average folk. I'd guess that most people shun having sex with animals because they believe it is unnatural (whether for explicitly religious reasons or not). Ask an average person about getting it on with Bossy the Cow and the answer is more likely to be, "that's gross" than, "well, I might, but Bossy can't really give me her consent, so I'll refrain."

Just a hunch, but if I'm right I'd think the question has to do with evolved psychological biases against violating purity rituals. So maybe someone like Jonathan Haidt is the person to go to rather than Peter Singer.

Posted by: Jonathan | Jul 21, 2008 10:01:02 AM

When I visited Australia I was informed of the erotism that exists between sheep and men. I had known about it when, as a medical officer in the US Navy, I had to process the discharge of a USMC recruit "guilty" of having sex with a mare. He, a native from Clinton (yes, look it up in the map) Iowa, saw it as an endearing gesture to the animal on his part.

Birute Galdikas, one of Leakey's Angels, describes how, having discarded a menstrual napking in the jungle, an orangutan tried to have sex with her.

The DSM-V-TR Bible clasifies it as: 302.9 Paraphilia Not Otherwise Specified.

My question is to Jared: In the case of Galdikas, is the paraphilia the orang's? And if so, what kind of therapy or drug would help?

I must clarify, that in the jungle they don't provide trashcans.

Fun posting!

Posted by: Felix E F Larocca MD | Jul 21, 2008 10:11:37 AM

Felix,

Since "Paraphilias are a phenomenon of males nearly exclusively" according to wikipedia,the orang is to blame. A judge, on the other hand, would likely cite the female researcher's provocative dress.

Posted by: Jared | Jul 21, 2008 10:37:21 AM

Great post and comments!

Harlan's objection, which is probably widely held, I think deserves a more of a response. The reason Harlan believes it is wrong to kill people even after treating them perfectly well, but it is not wrong to do the same to animals, is because animals are "meant" or "designed" for that kind of treatment, while humans are (presumably) not. The evidence offered is the biological evolution of cows, etc., as prey animals, which shows that their purpose on earth (or at least part of it) is to be eaten. Although one might object that predatory animals (dogs? snakes?) should then not be killed and eaten, the underlying assumption is that all animals are prey relative to humans. (If you see humans as hammers, all animals look like nails.)

But is today's human still designed to be a predator? We now have evolved so that we no longer need to eat meat to survive, and many of us seem to have developed a revulsion against inflicting (or observing the infliction of) pain and death on animals - an inconvenient emotional response for a predator. Perhaps this means we are no longer "meant" to eat meat?

Another argument from evolutionary differences between plants and animals: Plants in general have not evolved strong mechanisms for resisting being eaten. Plants can't run away. Fruits and vegetables literally offer themselves up for consumption. However, all animals, even fish and insects, have evolved defenses against being eaten, if only running away, as if to say, "Hey - I don't want to be eaten!" As humans evaluating the world around us and ascribing moral significance as we do, we might reasonably conclude that animals, requiring an act of violence to consume, are not meant to be killed and eaten by us.

The point that it is actually quite easy to tell whether a living thing wants to be eaten or not can probably also be applied to sex with animals: I imagine that an animal could find a way to somehow signal whether or not it is receptive to a human's sexual desire...

Posted by: Eli | Jul 21, 2008 11:42:15 AM

Justin,

What an interesting and engaging essay! Thanks for sharing it.

I wonder, though, to what extent your suggestion for a framework for understanding the prohibition against bestiality—“It has only to do with the perception of harm to the shared conceptual scheme that enables us to give order and meaning to the world around us”—isn’t different in kind from the ‘argument from debasement’, but rather different in its degree of reflection. I have a few questions along these lines.

First, you write: “To invoke the debasing character of bestiality is hardly to make an argument; it is only to give a gut reaction without explaining why the idea of this deed has this effect on the gut.” Does that ‘hardly’ mean that there might be an argument worth the name that moves along these lines; i.e. is the problem that it proceeds immediately from feeling to a moral/conceptual conclusion, surreptitiously circumventing the mediating work that could possibly justify that argument? Or is that still too generous?

Second, you offer a quick (and well-deserved) dismissal of the position as it is articulated by a National Review Online writer, but the move you make to distance yourself from anything along those lines (the insistence that finding bestiality ‘weird’ is substantially different from finding it ‘base’, ‘vile’ or ‘repulsive’) strikes me as under-supported. With ‘base’ and ‘vile’, I suppose, one can detect moral content being snuck in post hoc to a purportedly descriptive account of feelings, but I’d like to hear something about why you take the feeling of ‘weirdness’ to be so distinct from that of ‘repulsion’ (or ‘disgust’).

Third, and briefly (I know: too late!), I find the notion of a “shared conceptual scheme that enables us to give order and meaning to the world,” but that also exposes us to a kind of cognitive vulnerability, to be a terribly attractive one, and potentially very helpful for sussing out the shape of tricky moral questions like this one. But at the same time, I find myself feeling a bit “on guard;” just what does this amount to, this “order and meaning”-giving? Surely this is pushing on a question that goes well beyond the scope of what you’ve written here, but a robust account of what you mean at precisely this point seems like the next place one would have to go.

Again, many thanks!

Posted by: CPM | Jul 21, 2008 12:11:39 PM

Eli,

The scare quotes you put around 'meant' are well-deserved; so well-deserved, in fact, maybe we'd be better off without the term altogether. There's something to be said, I think, for rehabilitating an Aristotelian conception of nature as a teleologically-ordered whole, but I think we ought to be very wary of trying to reconcile that conception outright with our best evolutionary biology. The latter owes its successes precisely to its bracketing of our (human, all too human) teleological concerns, and the former owes its charm precisely to the lingering power of those same concerns. If an Aristotelian rehabilitation is worth undertaking, it will require a great deal of reflective discipline.

Maybe they'd be better left as "non-overlapping magisteria" ... .

Posted by: CPM | Jul 21, 2008 12:29:09 PM

Does oral sex with animals count?

Posted by: Donald Lebeau | Jul 21, 2008 5:04:59 PM

And then there are dolphins. For those who are curious, here's an interesting link.
http://www.sexwork.com/family/dolphins1.html

Posted by: doug l | Jul 21, 2008 5:24:14 PM

A fascinating topic. However, I'm not sure I agree when Justin says

On MacKinnon's thinking, a sheep could also be a victim of statutory rape: it could be ignorant of the harm done to it, yet harmed it would still be. This strikes me as absurd.

In cases of pedophilia, it is not always the case that the child is aware of being harmed. Does that imply that no harm was done? It's not a rhetorical question.

Posted by: Daryl McCullough | Jul 21, 2008 5:29:01 PM

WK's objection cuts the deepest, here, as it accuses Justin of conflating absolute morality with culturally relative morality. That is to say, Justin is offering an account of concept-formation and asserting that such concept-formation is the foundation of all moral thought. WK is (perhaps rightly) arguing that we can nonetheless use reason to reflect on and transcend our particular conceptual schemes (as we did with slavery).

What I think is most interesting about Justin's piece is that it seems to be urging us to reflect on exactly how radical this kind of reflection and revision can be. Singer (and his arch-nemesis Kant) are paradigm rationalists in this sense... they don't want any of our conceptual schemes to be immune from the force of reason.

So, for Singer, reason just cannot abide by the deep prohibitions against bestiality, because no suffering is necessarily caused to the animal. Hell, with practice, you could probably make a sheep of your choice very happy, and the utilitarians would stand by and applaud.

So, WK, What Justin seems to be gesturing at is this: how coherent is a moral standpoint which removes itself from all of our particular, culturally instilled concepts? Is such a standpoint even possible? If it isn't, then surely we have to start somewhere, holding some conceptual distinctions to be of primary, unquestioned importance.

Which ones? Why, "...the shared conceptual scheme that enables us to give order and meaning to the world around us." Anyone who wants to really attack Justin here has to either show that there is (1) some coherent moral standpoint which is more important than this one, or (2) show that the prohibition of bestiality does not play the kind of "ordering" role that he claims it does.

I suspect (2) is the more promising route, but I'm going to shut up now, as this comment is going to crash the 3QD servers.

Posted by: Nick Smyth | Jul 21, 2008 5:57:11 PM

wow - only on 3QD...

My input -

Yes, I have a male friend who has to be warned away from visiting when any of 4 non-neutered cats (in 3 different households I've witnessed) were in heat. They would literally crawl on him constantly, writhing and panting and yowling in anticipation. It was truly strange. Oddly, it was just him, and none of my other male friends (including those who were permanent members of the household.)

Also on that note, the last time my friend's cat was in heat, the vet gave him a cat-sized dildo and told him to use it when he wanted a bit of peace.

Moving on -
I think the difference between the "no harm known" in pedophilia and bestiality is that the sheep is NEVER going to know/care that it was molested, and presumably the child will mature and find out, upon which time it WILL know and be damaged. Also, pedophiles more grossly violate our human impulse to protect our own species' young, versus doing something bad to another species, about which we're much less evolved in our sensibilities.

And yes, oral sex with ANYTHING is illegal in my state (which of course means that it's horribly, awfully, wrong. Just like parking your elephant on the courthouse stairs.)

Finally, what's wrong with the 'gut reaction'? Isn't the current thought that the 'almost human' creepiness factor comes in because of early need for noticing miniscule differences in behavior in sickened individuals?

I can see sex with animals as not the most helpful towards developing ancient village social life and family/clan connections, so that would be a good enough basis to say that's why we've got such a strong sense that it's wrong.

Necrophilia also - dead people died of something, and when you can't know what killed them, it's a good idea not to go messing with them too much. There are lots of strictures and prohitions around the dealings with the dead. Beastiality may be similar. Why do we need to justify or over-explain something that may simply be an ancient evolutionary mental tic?

Posted by: reader | Jul 21, 2008 6:57:45 PM

Edward Albee's play ''The Goat or Who Is Sylvia?,'' addresses this issue.
http://theater2.nytimes.com/mem/theater/treview.html?html_title=&tols_title=GOAT,%20THE%20(PLAY)&pdate=20020930&byline=By%20BEN%20BRANTLEY&id=1077011432462
I agree with Justin's conclusion about a basic need for order. Malcom Bradbury wrote a book called "Eating People is Wrong", and that title is itself a satyrical comment of how moral relativism saws away at the branches everyone sits on.

Posted by: aguy109 | Jul 21, 2008 7:27:51 PM

Would the potential for disease be, perhaps, another reason to frown on such activity? Would you have a problem with someone try to screw a chicken in an area rampant with bird-flu? Clearly this kind of intimacy increases the movement of pathogens from animals to humans. Thinks AIDS... Chimpanzees... Maybe that first encounter wasn't over dinner.

Posted by: missbossy | Jul 21, 2008 10:21:23 PM

I was surprised by your last sentence, that you now think you have some reason for thinking bestiality is wrong. What seems justified is your explanation of why (some) people THINK bestiality is wrong. (Many others don't, as a trip to many many many websites on the topic will confirm.) But that's not an argument that it is wrong, as you conclude. Using your idea of "harm to the shared conceptual scheme that enables us to give order and meaning to the world around us," one can recognize the importance of having one of these and also of being able to try to change parts of it. After all, slavery and racial restrictions were part of a great many people's conceptual schemes at one time--after seeing racists in action (family members) I can assure these beliefs are constituents of what gives order and value to their lives.

I can tell you why I don't have sex with animals (the reasons you give are good ones), but not why it would be wrong if I did.

Posted by: Brad | Jul 24, 2008 1:54:17 PM

Justin, I have three observations on this piece:

>"The wrongness ... has only to do with the perception of harm to the shared conceptual scheme that enables us to give order and meaning to the world around us. No set of rules does more to contribute to this order and meaning than the set that dictates who may have sex with whom or what, when, where, and in what manner. And this is why bestiality is wrong."

1. Your final statement is interesting. I take it to mean: "And this is why bestiality should be wrong." This is your stake in the ground. If this reading is correct, it is noteworthy that those who oppose homosexuality today drink from the same well of "order and meaning" in social sexual conduct. You've drawn the line further down but your concluding statement of belief springs from a no less arbitrary appeal to "order and meaning" as the evangelical next door. Would you agree?

2. Further, I think your quote above owes a good deal to the "human dignity" line of argument (III.5) that you dismiss as having "missed the mark entirely". The fiction of human dignity, to which we wholeheartedly subscribe, is what sets us apart from animals (and protects us from being treated like animals). Without this dignity to set us apart, would we be too concerned with social sexual conduct, or with other ways in which we try and set ourselves apart from animals: hygiene, avoiding nudity or defecating anywhere, etc? (It is no surprise that "you're behaving like an animal" is a rebuke in so many cultures). In other words, human dignity may be precisely what drives the need for "order and meaning" in humans (with both sexual and non-sexual dimensions to it).

3. If much of our response to animals, as you emphasize twice in this essay (noting that you've argued this point elsewhere - where please?), "arises not from moral reflection, but from pre-moral concept formation," are life experience largely useless in shaping our morality towards animals?

I look forward to your response.

Posted by: Namit | Jul 24, 2008 4:25:26 PM

Just noticed that Brad beat me to my first observation.

Posted by: Namit | Jul 24, 2008 4:35:32 PM

Interesting read. I was actually having this exact conversation with my friend earlier on in the day.

I agree with your assessment, sex with animals is not immoral. If an animal consents, and they can, why not?

The concept that you close with of it being 'weird' I agree with. Its a strange thing which, although I will not partake in, others may do and in response all I can do is go erg.....

From self experience, I have had many a female dog that would offer themselves to males in the house (this is a disturbing form of complement). As well I have had, I believe, a roommate who attempted to get something out of a pet without consent (and thus he was removed).

This alone to me proves the concept of consent. A smart dog knows at the very least the difference between what it wants and what it doesn't. As so why not help it out...

The sacrifice we must make.

AAAAAARRRRRRRRROOOOOOOoooooooooo!!!!

Posted by: Nathan | Jul 25, 2008 1:22:43 AM

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