June 23, 2008
Dispatches: A Wimbledon Dialogue
Perhaps you're aware that the Championships at the All England Lawn Tennis and Croquet Club, better known by the name of the London suburb in which it's played--Wimbledon--begins today. In case you'd like to catch up, here's a discussion of the major storylines with my friend and fellow tennis fan, Sydneysider Lucy Perkins.
Asad Raza: Hi there Luce, thanks for taking the time to do this! So I suppose we'd better tackle the question everyone asks first, first: What the heck is going on with Roger Federer? He's won only two tournaments this year, both minor tuneups, and suffered perhaps his worst Grand Slam loss ever at the hands of smiling assassin Rafael Nadal in the final of Roland Garros. Is Federer, as your Sydney papers have it, ready to be put "out to pasture," or have reports of his demise as the world's dominant player been premature?
Lucy Perkins: Hi Asad! No problem: I feel more famous for talking to you. Re: Roger, I wish I knew. I think OUT TO PASTURE is, to put it mildly, a little harsh. There is no need to reel off his list of accomplishments, and anyway we don't have time, but he's been winning Wimbledon every year since Mark Philippoussis was a credible opponent. (Fans of the reality TV series The Age of Love will recognise the import of this statement.) He also has an unbroken grass streak of fifty-nine matches - and counting! - and he won Halle just last week without dropping serve. Fed has a knack of picking himself up after the ritual devastation of the French Open final and refusing to look back.
On the other hand, Federer's performance in the Roland Garros final really was dismal, and his attitude surprisingly blase. And Rafa just keeps getting better; he seemed to reach his first Wimbledon final through sheer enthusiasm, but beating Djokovic and Roddick to win Queens looks awfully like accomplishment. As a Federer fan, my concern isn't so much over Federer's form as Rafa's. He's getting closer all the time to beating Roger on grass, as anyone who saw last year's epic Wimbledon final could attest. Could this be the year?
Asad Raza: I think it could--not only did Nadal devastate Federer in Paris, but he handled Andy Roddick and Novak Djokovic with such intimidating form at Queen's, the most competitive Wimbledon tuneup tournament. I think Rafa's grass-court credentials are very real--after all, he made the last two Wimbledon finals--and I think there is no player who does not fear him right now.
If Nadal does win Wimbledon, it will be tough for anyone to dislodge him as the best player this year. So for Federer, his two stated priorities, the Wimby crown and his number one ranking, are at stake. Is he fully recovered from mono? I think he is, since his clay court season was exactly as accomplished as his usually are--i.e. making the big finals and losing to Nadal. Nothing new there. On the other hand, he hasn't looked as imperious as usual, but I thought that last year, too. In the words of the pirate Mallorcan, we gonna see.
Who else do you think has a chance?
Lucy Perkins: Well, naturally, Novak Djokovic has to be part of this conversation. After winning his first Grand Slam in Australia this year, Djokovic has gone from up-and-comer to serious contender. He's intensely talented and hypercompetitive, and he seems to manage the surface transition with ease. He's also oddly brittle for such a brash young thing. I sincerely hope Djokovic doesn't intend to repeat last year's performance, in which he fought his way to a semi against Rafa only to retire. (Admittedly, the fortnight had been tough on Djokovic, with long rain delays interspersed with manic stretches of playing. But still.)
As far as form goes, Djokovic appears to have stepped down a notch since the Australian Open, and his loss to Nadal at Queens seemed to confirm his spot just below Nadal in the pecking order. But the greats always peak at the big tournaments, and they come no bigger than Wimbledon, so this could serve as an intriguing test of Djoko's mettle. Especially since he is in Federer's half of the draw. Apart from those three, the list of contenders is surprisingly short. Most years, I would also include Andy Roddick as a contender. But watching Roddick nowadays, it's sometimes difficult to recall that only a few years ago he came within spitting distance of beating King Federer himself at Wimbledon. Last year, against the talented, flaky Richard Gasquet, Roddick was up two sets and a break before losing it, quite inexplicably. It was a measure of how far he'd fallen, and it was sad to behold. Can you be twenty-five years old and belong to a bygone era? It seems you can, in tennis at least.
Meanwhile, my favourite hobby horse, David Nalbandian, appears to have reverted to form after a phenomenal end to 2007. Nalbandian is no stranger to grass, having made the Wimbledon final in 2002, but he has a habit of turning in a string of desultory performances just as you're starting to warm to him. He's hardly a form player, having taken precisely one game off Novak Djokovic in the Queens semi. But I feel the need to mention him anyway.
Asad Raza: All true, although I rate Andy Roddick's chances a little higher than you--my patriotic bias. I note neither of us mentioned the Great Scottish Hope, Andy Murray, who is really talented but who I think we probably agree seems way too mercurial to win seven straight five-set matches. Djokovic has chances, but he's on Federer's side of the draw and he might be too high-strung to beat both the top guys for the title.
Some other men I think bear watching: Robin Soderling (who may meet Fed in round two) and the always lovably irritating Radek Stepanek. Then there's the boy wonder, Ernests Gulbis (round two with Rafa, if he gets past Isner), the only Latvian player ever to be a factor on tour. Gulbis is charming, confident, and the ball comes off his racquet like a cannon fired it. And, my major upset guy this time out is Gael Monfils, the French player who came out of a long slump to reach the French semis, where he pushed Federer pretty hard. He has incredible power and incredible movement, but likes to play a passive style and then counterpunch after baiting his opponent into leaving a side of the court open. That might be impossible to pull off on grass, because the ball skips through the court faster, but Monfils is always exciting to watch. Might pull off some huge wins, but also might flame out in the first round.
Okay, in general the men's tour is pretty much sewn up by the top three. The women's, meanwhile, is wide open--no one seems to be able to establish lasting supremacy these days, leading many to claim disinterest in it. But have you noticed that when the women's tour was dominated by Steffi Graf and Monica Seles, people would complain that the women's field had no depth? Now that it has depth, apparently the players are insufficiently dominant. Any thoughts on this strange double standard? Are there real problems with the women's tour right now?
For this decade, it's really been an inconsistent struggle between Serena Williams and the just-retired Justine Henin, with lesser challenges from Maria Sharapova and others. Now a new number one, Ana Ivanovic, has emerged with a title at the French and an intensity that others on the women's tour don't seem to match these days. For that reason, I have Ivanovic as my favorite to win the title--I just don't see the other top seeds as serious enough about it. Sharapova was in L.A. while the Wimbledon tuneups were being played, and the Williams sisters almost never play them anyway. That said, Venus is the defending champion and it's hard to bet against her if she gets through the first week.
Lucy Perkins: I'm glad you brought up the double standard before I did. Nobody is ever happy when it comes to the state of the women's game: if someone's dominant, there's no depth. If nobody's dominant, it's boring. And even during the Hingis/Williams/Davenport era, when the women's game was both genuinely competitive and about a billion times as interesting as the men's, there were all these gendered stories about how the competition just doesn't seem as fair or as clean as the men's.
But at the moment, I tend to agree with you about the state of the game, and I will even point to one problem with the women's game that does seem systematic: it loses its champions at an alarming rate. I wasn't particularly surprised when Kim Clijsters retired so that she could wash her husband's dishes - she was nobody's feminist poster child. But Justine Henin always struck me as the consummate career girl. I mean, when it was literally tennis or her marriage, tennis won. And now she ups and quits, aged 25? Something really must be amiss.
Anyway, back to Wimbledon. This is, as you point out, clearly a golden opportunity for Ivanovic, and I bet more than one WTA exec is hoping she takes it. Before this year, I wasn't convinced that Ivanovic had it. Her fitness was always suspect, and off-court she seems bubbly and laid-back. But the steel she showed at Roland Garros was a real surprise.
On the other hand, I wouldn't dismiss Sharapova's ability to get serious when the moment requires it. And the Williamses are anyone's guess. They seem to be able to decide to win and then do it, with minimal preparation. It's infuriating, but captivating at the same time, as if the rest of the tour is just at the mercy of Williams-family whims. I don't know about this year, though. Another out-of-nowhere title for Venus just seems a bridge too far, even for her.
I'll also use this opportunity to plug my sentimental favourite for the women's title, Elena Dementieva, who is lovely, talented, charming, thoughtful, and a choker extraordinaire. She will probably lose, and it will probably be a heartbreaker, and she will probably be charmingly sincere in her press-conference. But I wish it weren't so.
Asad Raza: Excellent points all--I'm with you in admiring Dementieva, in my case also because she is the fiancée of one of my beloved Buffalo
Sabres, Maxim Afinogenov. I'm looking forward to running into the two of them eating chicken wings at the Anchor Bar someday.
So that seems to be about the size of it. Shall we go out on limbs, and offer our predictions for the semifinals onwards?
Lucy Perkins: Fine, but with the usual disclaimers people offer up in these kind of circumstances, you know, about how anything can happen in sports and all that.
Men's Semifinals: Roger Federer v. Novak Djokovic, Andy Roddick v. Rafael Nadal
Finals: Roger Federer v. Rafael Nadal
Champion: Roger Federer. I typed Nadal's name, but then anything other than Roger looked wrong.
And Bjorkman/Ulyett for the men's doubles title! Boo-yah!
Women's Semifinals: Ana Ivanovic v. Svetlana Kuznetsova, Maria Sharapova v. Venus Williams
Finals: Ivanovic v. Sharapova
Champion: Ana Ivanovic
... and Peschke/Stubbs for doubles, because I am highly patriotic and don't wish to resort to Hewitt boosterism.
Asad Raza: Hmmmm, mine are much the same, boringly enough.
Men's Semifinals: Roger Federer v. Novak Djokovic, Andy Roddick v. Rafael Nadal
Finals: Roger Federer v. Rafael Nadal
Champion: Rafael Nadal. He finds it impossible to miss the forehand down the line on big points, and he will carve serve after lefty, can-opening serve to Federer's backhand.
Women's Semifinals: Ana Ivanovic v. Agnieska Radwanska, Maria Sharapova v. Jelena Jankovic
Finals: Ivanovic v. Sharapova
Champion: Ana Ivanovic. I don't quite have faith this will happen, but I can't think of anything else more likely.
Which leads me to one final question: if Rafa does defeat Roger, he will have beaten Federer in every match they've played this year, and taken two Grand Slams and two Master's Series tourneys to Fed's zero and zero, yet I believe he will still, undeservedly, be ranked number two. What's up with that?
Lucy Perkins: Well, let me try and explain. How it works is, you get rewarded for winning tournaments in RANKING POINTS which in turn go to determine your RANKING including who is number one. "Deserve" is factored into the system.
Asad Raza: Always making sense, Luce. Alright, let's check back later in the week when the draws have been shot to hail and our predictions mooted!
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Comments
Enjoyed the piece and the style... conversational. I would predict Nadal to take the Wimbledon this year. He has elevated his game to another level, while Federer's has stayed put or may even have declined. Go wimbledon!
Posted by: Tasnim | Jun 23, 2008 9:05:29 AM
Asad, glad to see you got off the Federer high horse at last.
If his knees hold up, it will be Nadal this year. (Bjorn Borg concurs :-) But watch out for Djokovic sneaking in.
Posted by: Ruchira | Jun 23, 2008 9:42:46 AM
I think Nadal is more susceptible of losing in the early rounds than Roger, and he has a couple tough potential matches against Gulbis and Youzhny. Youzhny arguably would have beaten Rafa in straights last year before he injured his back. If Rafa makes it past Youzhny, we have a new Wimbledon Champion.
Posted by: John | Jun 23, 2008 9:53:55 PM
Rafa shall not win this year. Rafa winning round 1 itself is tough. Beck hits real solid and is a fine player. Even if Rafa manages to go past him don't think he would be able to win the subsequent rounds. Would be a miracle if he reaches the second week.
Posted by: Booboo | Jun 24, 2008 1:25:02 AM
Thanks - great read. Nice to find tennis writing today without the tiresome Federer obituary, embarrassing for the writers when they leave out the eulogy. Vultures indeed.
Federer in form still beats anyone. Possible he finds it against Djoker in semis, and his confidence.
Posted by: Josh | Jun 24, 2008 7:16:19 AM
I'm still a Federer believer. Weird to see Djokovic lose to Safin, but of course Safin has always been both crazy talented and undisciplined.
People have gone so far as to talk about a conspiracy to deprive women's sports of their best players. I wouldn't be quite as hard on Kim Clijsters - it seems like her body just wasn't really up to the punishment and she is using this as an excuse.
Posted by: Hektor Bim | Jun 26, 2008 4:34:33 AM
I wouldn't have guessed Safin to win even a set in that match.
As I speak, Ernests Gulbis has set point in the first on Nadal... this match could be trouble.
Posted by: Asad Raza | Jun 26, 2008 9:02:05 AM
Finals: Ivanovic v. Sharapova: Asad
Oops, both crashed early - losing to players ranked #133 and #154. One of them got whipped because her opponent didn't like her stylish outfit.
Things may be looking up for the Williams sisters.
Posted by: Ruchira | Jun 27, 2008 9:33:10 PM
Hi Ruchira, I think it's kind of nice when a player in regulation gear takes a top player and her/his specially designed fashion look into a close match. Suddenly the basic irrelevance of the tools and decorations becomes apparent, and all the wishes of sponsors, agents and networks are moot, and only the player can save herself. It's so real.
Posted by: Asad Raza | Jun 28, 2008 11:57:25 AM
I agree. Especially when such an upset takes the focus away from sexist leering and brings it back to the game. It used to be Anna Kournikova (perhaps it still is, if this disgusting rant is any indication) and now it is Sharapova. The world of sports, essentially a celebration of physical perfection, is never going to be free of sexist nonsense - of studs and sexpots. But this fashion thing about female tennis players is a bit nauseating. Makes me nostalgic for the no-nonsense days of Martina Navratilova and Steffi Graf.
On the other hand, another kind of sporting outfit is making a splash. This one is not so much about sex appeal as it is about its supposedly performance enhancing qualities - "sporting gear on steroids," according to its critics.
Posted by: Ruchira | Jun 28, 2008 12:43:54 PM
Wow, you couldn't have gotten it more wrong- men's & women's.. stupid post.
Posted by: anon | Jun 28, 2008 1:30:00 PM
At some point, perhaps soon, Federer will start missing a step and come back down to earth. He'll still be phenomenally good, but he won't be on his own planet anymore. I don't think Nadal and Djokovic will be able to dominate in the same way. Nadal doesn't have a good enough all-around game.
Posted by: Hektor Bim | Jun 28, 2008 9:01:22 PM
Hector, Nadal may agree with you. Check out this characteristically forthright answer he gave in a press conference today:
Q. When you think back to your matches over the years with Roger Federer, you think about your differences in styles, how different is it, and what is so different between the two of you? You and Roger Federer, what are the biggest differences between the two of you?
RAFAEL NADAL: Well, I think he's more elegant player. I think he has more options to do on court. He can do everything: serve and volley; he can serve better than me; the forehand he can play, well, more aggressive than me. Probably the defensive shot I have little bit better than him. But I think in the global, I think he's more complete than me in all aspects, no?
Posted by: Asad Raza | Jun 28, 2008 11:11:36 PM
Asad and Hektor,
I didn't mean to come across as dismissive of Federer's immense talent. The reason I am hoping to see Nadal (or someone else) win is that men's tennis had become rather predictable and boring for a while when the field had begun to look like "Federer vs all the insignifact others." There was no depth at all unlike in the women's field where the outcome of a championship match is never a certainty. With the rise of Nadal and Djokovic in particular (and Marat Safin on a good day), things are a bit more mixed up now and the tournaments are worth betting over. Federer is still a strong favorite in my mind to win this year's Wimbledon if he doesn't get rattled by his opponent.
Posted by: Ruchira | Jun 29, 2008 3:20:53 PM
I understand what you mean, Ruchira. But for me, watching Federer isn't boring. It's amazing to watch him do things you didn't think could be done, get out of scrapes that others wouldn't be able to get out of, etc. His match with Hewitt is an example.
Now, this doesn't mean that other players can't exhibit the same kind of beauty (and they do), but that Federer has been most consistent at it.
Posted by: Hektor Bim | Jun 30, 2008 9:44:55 AM
Oh, and Asad, thanks for the timely quote and assist.
Posted by: Hektor Bim | Jun 30, 2008 9:46:08 AM
Actually, Hektor, I thought Federer played a fairly bland match today, getting into long, not particularly big-hitting rallies with the lightly powered Hewitt, and not really dialing in until absolutely necessary. Federer on autopilot.
But the tournament is getting really interesting... Safin continuing his run, Nadal playing his best yet on grass, the Williams sisters on course to meet in the final, pretty boy Feliciano Lopez showing extra toughness, and right now, a possible barn burner of a match between two unfulfilled phenoms, Andy Murray and Richard "Blown" Gasquet...
Posted by: Asad Raza | Jun 30, 2008 1:10:49 PM
Couple more things about Nadal succeeding Federer as a tennis hegemon. Firstly, domination in the Federer mode is incredibly rare; in fact, if you take both longevity and intensity into account, it's unprecedented, at least in the Open era. (A few people, like Laver, McEnroe and Lendl, have had comparably dominant years, but never four of 'em in a row; Sampras was dominant for a long time, but never won more than two Slams in a year, and wasn't in the business of turning in 85-5 seasons.) Given that historical context, it would be a bit surprising if either Nadal or Djokovic turn out to be as dominant as Federer. Secondly, Rafa is scary-competitive and gets more versatile every year, but even at 22 he is physically iffy. And Djoko isn't much better. Fed has benefited from an incredible confluence of luck and diligent preparation - as a result of which, he has had virtually no injuries in all his time as #1. Which is amazing.
Form-wise, though, I don't see much separating Federer and Nadal at this point in the tournament. Federer's performance against Hewitt was efficient and workmanlike rather than inspired, but jeez, he takes some beating on grass. Nadal looks much better than last year, to my eye. He made Youzhny look utterly inferior, and Youzhny is supposed to be one of his nemeses.
I refuse on credibility grounds to discuss the women's draw, but I will say this: Kim Clijsters may have been injury-prone, but she was no less silly than I implied.
Posted by: Lucy | Jul 1, 2008 2:51:59 AM
I don't have much to add, Lucy, except: yup. It is extremely unlikely that any player will repeat Federer's dominance, since no one else ever has, since pro tennis began in 1968. In some ways, the more interesting question is, how will Federer respond if he moves down from his unprecedented level of dominance to a merely Lendl or Sampras-like level?
As for the form, I give Federer the edge over Nadal, just because his game is more naturally suited to the surface--he looks cleaner. Roger, grass, duck, water, etc. But I think all that changes when Nadal, and all he represents (the end of his reign), is standing on the other side of the net.
Dementieva is hitting pretty darn well... will face Venus Williams in the semifinals.
Posted by: Asad Raza | Jul 1, 2008 10:49:10 AM
a merely Lendl or Sampras-like level?
That's pretty funny.
Sania Mirza is nowhere to be seen (at least as far as I have looked) but I was glad to see two other Asian women advance to the quarters for the first time. One has now been dispatched by Serena Williams and the other is possibly the next prey. Let's see how this all works out. I am always okay with a Williams-Williams match-up although both tend to pull their punches in an all-sisters duel.
Posted by: Ruchira | Jul 1, 2008 3:56:43 PM
One has now been dispatched by Serena Williams and the other is possibly the next prey. One has now been dispatched by Serena Williams and the other is possibly the next prey.
I meant dispatched by Venus and the other is up against Serena.
Posted by: Ruchira | Jul 1, 2008 4:00:04 PM
Ruchira, Sania lost in the second round to a Spanish journeywoman, Maria José Martinez Sanchez. I'm afraid Mirza's second serve, which is a major liability, might prevent her from getting near the top.
So who do you like between Williams sisters, if they play the final? I'm thinking Venus.
Posted by: Asad Raza | Jul 1, 2008 5:50:21 PM
Ah, Sania was there! I must have lost her among the dizzying array of east European names cluttering the women's field this year.
Venus looks really good - she usually does at Wimbledon. If she and Serena do face off in the finals, I don't know whether she will be as relentless against sis as she is with her other opponents. Also, Venus has 4 Wimbledon wins and Serena 2. I wonder if there will be a spirit of equal sharing taking the edge off her play. As I said before, the Williamses are not as ferocious with each other as they are with others. But who knows. Venus is probably looking at a career that is winding down. She may want to put away as many trophies as she can.
BTW, by advancing to the semis, does China's Zheng become the first Asian singles player to reach this far in a Grand Slam tournament? Was Vijay Amritraj's QFs at Wimbledon and the US Open the best record out of Asia until now?
Posted by: Ruchira | Jul 1, 2008 10:32:14 PM
Ah, Sania was there! I must have lost her among the dizzying array of east European names cluttering the women's field this year.
Venus looks really good - she usually does at Wimbledon. If she and Serena do face off in the finals, I don't know whether she will be as relentless against sis as she is with her other opponents. Also, Venus has 4 Wimbledon wins and Serena 2. I wonder if there will be a spirit of equal sharing taking the edge off her play. As I said before, the Williamses are not as ferocious with each other as they are with others. But who knows. Venus is probably looking at a career that is winding down. She may want to put away as many trophies as she can.
BTW, by advancing to the semis, does China's Zheng become the first Asian singles player to reach this far in a Grand Slam tournament? Was Vijay Amritraj's QFs at Wimbledon and the US Open the best record out of Asia until now?
Posted by: Ruchira | Jul 1, 2008 10:32:17 PM
Ramanathan Krishnan reached the Wimbledon semis in the sixties before the open era. I meant after that.
Also, I didn't post twice. Typepad acted up.
Posted by: Ruchira | Jul 1, 2008 11:24:07 PM
Djokovic is an all-court player with emphasis on offensive baseline play. His greatest strengths are his groundstrokes, serve and defense. He is consistent off both wings, although his backhand is his preferred stroke.
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