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January 15, 2008

Debating the Humanities, Round II

Stanley Fish continues on the value of the humanities over at his NYT blog.

Of the justifications for humanistic study offered in the comments, two seemed to me to have some force. The first is that taking courses in literature, philosophy and history provides training in critical thinking. I confess that I have always thought that “critical thinking” is an empty phrase, a slogan that a humanist has recourse to when someone asks what good is what you do and he or she has nothing to say. What’s the distinction, I have more than occasionally asked, between critical thinking and just thinking? Isn’t the adjective superfluous? And what exactly would “uncritical thinking” be? But now that I have read the often impassioned responses to my column, I have a better understanding of what critical thinking is.

Joseph Kugelmass responds again over at The Valve.

If by “critical thinking” one means merely the capacity for analysis, and the willingness to analyze something independently, then it is true that other venues besides the academy produce critical thinking. Nonetheless, skills specific to the interpretation and production of texts differ in enormous ways from the skills specific to the analysis of sports events. Otherwise, every head coach would also be a Cicero.

This variance obtains with each of the spurious alternatives you present to us here. Talk radio, while marginally interactive (since one caller at a time can speak to the host), imposes such limits on the level of the conversation that I’m frankly amazed you would compare it to a college seminar. Political analysis is rarely interactive at all: just watching a pundit talk does not produce skilled, independent political thought.

 

Posted by Robin Varghese at 01:14 PM | Permalink

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Robin,

Thanks so much for these links! I'd be delighted to hear your take on this evolving debate.

Posted by: Joseph Kugelmass | Jan 15, 2008 3:56:07 PM

If you have ever had a job where the other people were uneducated, unexposed to much in the way of the arts, didn't read very well, and basically didn't care about anything except their basic survival on a day to day basis, the need for liberal arts education becomes VERY obvious.

If you don't know anything about your culture, or can't do anything creative, you have one foot already in the grave. You are not even really alive; you live a half-life somewhere between vegetable and lower animals.

Usually when people deride an arts degree what they mean is: why didn't you devote your life to making money?

As unimaginable as it might seem, some people are interested in things besides greed.

Artists need to learn how to do business to market their art and humanities skills, no doubt, but the vice versa is also true. Otherwise you end up with society being run into the ground by business heads who have no respect for the humanities. Kind of like what we have now.

I give you the recording industry as a prime example of uncultured business freaks ruining people's appreciation of the arts. Now they are suing their own listeners because they need that money so bad. What a travesty.

Posted by: yogi-one | Jan 16, 2008 1:21:24 AM

The Fish link doesn't work.

Posted by: Abbas Raza | Jan 16, 2008 10:49:24 AM

I have summarized simple-to-complex critical thinking skills in a process matrix, structured into "input-process-output" categories.
The output of the first process phase (sense perception) is "percept." That output becomes the input for the second process phase (cognition), the output of which is "concept."
The complete list of processes is:
Sense Perception (simplest skill), Conception, Metacognition, Judgment, Syllogism Reasoning, and Theorizing (most complex skill).
Robert Sternberg, in his Triarchic Thinking model, speaks about three distinct levels of thinking:
A. First-time thinking (focused on Perception, the first process above);
B. Performance thinking (focused on Conception, the second process above); and
C. Metacognition (thinking about one's thinking).
One may also divide metacogntive thinking skills into simple and complex, sorting decision-making and problem-solving into the complex category.
Sternberg has maintained that most human beings, when asked, never think about their thinking--that is, metacognition--they just "do it." (First-time thinking and performance thinking.)
Please explore the knowledge base of critical thinking on www.knowbiz.biz.

Posted by: Tom Kimball, Ph.D. | Jan 16, 2008 12:03:49 PM

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