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November 06, 2007

flew's god problem

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Unless you are a professional philosopher or a committed atheist, you probably have not heard of Antony Flew. Eighty-four years old and long retired, Flew lives with his wife in Reading, a medium-size town on the Thames an hour west of London. Over a long career he held appointments at a series of decent regional universities — Aberdeen, Keele, Reading — and earned a strong reputation writing on an unusual range of topics, from Hume to immortality to Darwin. His greatest contribution remains his first, a short paper from 1950 called “Theology and Falsification.” Flew was a precocious 27 when he delivered the paper at a meeting of the Socratic Club, the Oxford salon presided over by C. S. Lewis. Reprinted in dozens of anthologies, “Theology and Falsification” has become a heroic tract for committed atheists. In a masterfully terse thousand words, Flew argues that “God” is too vague a concept to be meaningful. For if God’s greatness entails being invisible, intangible and inscrutable, then he can’t be disproved — but nor can he be proved. Such powerful but simply stated arguments made Flew popular on the campus speaking circuit; videos from debates in the 1970s show a lanky man, his black hair professorially unkempt, vivisecting religious belief with an English public-school accent perfect for the seduction of American ears. Before the current crop of atheist crusader-authors — Richard Dawkins, Daniel Dennett, Christopher Hitchens — there was Antony Flew.

Flew’s fame is about to spread beyond the atheists and philosophers. HarperOne, an imprint of HarperCollins, has just released “There Is a God: How the World’s Most Notorious Atheist Changed His Mind,” a book attributed to Flew and a co-author, the Christian apologist Roy Abraham Varghese.

more from the NY Times Magazine here.

Posted by Morgan Meis at 09:48 AM | Permalink

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You missed the link:

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/04/magazine/04Flew-t.html

What a sad story.

Posted by: anon | Nov 6, 2007 10:14:53 AM

Yes, very sad. Still, let's look at the facts. He agrees firmly that the rational arguments don't come anywhere close to supporting the kind of personal god that is needed for any of the major Western religions. It's THAT god that I think we should have the most problem with. Deism just isn't something I find to be all that problematic. We can sit and have drinks with them pleasantly because we really live in the same KIND of universe. (Imagine the sheer fun of having a drink or ten with Thomas Paine, David Hume, or Voltaire, none of whom were strict non-believers.) Sure, we have a metaphysical disagreement, but one with no overt practical, social, or political consequences. (Some deists might supplement their deism with wacky beliefs, but nothing in the deism entails that they must do that, though.)

This case shows the religious right for the moral scum that they are at heart--manipulating vulnerable individuals to further their bottom-line.

Posted by: Brad | Nov 6, 2007 10:30:41 AM

That's pretty interesting, as I'm using some of his anti-"metaphysical" claims, in my thesis...

Posted by: Damien | Nov 6, 2007 10:31:34 AM

As a philosopher, I've *heard* of Flew, but just barely (confession: I keep mixing him up with Anthony Kenny). I never once heard his name in all my many, many years of grad school. A little digging in my piles of books indicates that I have an anthology (from 1970) with "Theology and Falsification" in it. I should check it out.

So it's funny to hear about how he was the "world's most notorious atheist", a "towering intellect," a leading philosopher, etc. – now that he's changed his views, well into retirement.

Posted by: Dave M | Nov 6, 2007 12:22:50 PM

Sigh, I guess I was wrong, and this is correct:
"First, let's take a quick look at the basic biblical narrative:

There is an indescribably powerful and intelligent being called God who is in existence prior to the dawn of time. For whatever reason, he decides to create the universe and pays particular attention to planet Earth. Having created the universe, Earth and all the species on it (through 'creating' the Big Bang and 'guiding' evolution in the Williams style of interpretation), he decides to focus all his attention on a collection of tribal groupings in the Middle East, in particular the Israelites who are his 'chosen people' and who he obsesses over, while apparently ignoring the rest of the world's population. He lays down numerous often primitive and arbitrary moral and ceremonial laws, then gets involved in inner tribal politics and land disputes, inciting acts of brutality, war crimes, genocide, and rape along the way. Fast forward to the Middle East under Roman occupation and God decides it's time to put in an appearance. By mystical means he comes to earth in human form, being born of a virgin. He becomes incarnate as a Jewish male and wanders around what is today Israel-Palestine, imparting pithy social commentary (but never giving any systematic explanation of how such ideas might be made politically useful), engaging in faith healing (removing 'demons' from people), magic tricks (such as walking on water and raising a dead man), and ranting on and on about sin, eternal punishment for the majority of the world's population, and the impending end of the world. He gets himself crucified, in order that he can sacrifice himself to himself for our good. A few days later he walks out of his tomb and wanders round with some of his followers (noticeably not bothering to make himself known to anyone but those who already believed in him), before 'ascending' into 'Heaven', to wait for the time when he will return to raise every human who has ever lived in bodily form for judgement, then cast most of us into a pit of fire and take a select few into his 'kingdom' for eternity where they will live happily ever after.

These are the basic building blocks upon which all Christian theology is constructed. Williams and others can protest that of course they don't really see things in such a simplistic and manifestly implausible way, but this narrative underpins the Bible, the Church creeds, liturgies, and centuries of theological speculation."

When do I start drinking blood, consuming flesh, and when do I meet the Talking Snake?
Kafka was a lightweight compared to these perverts!

Posted by: Dave Ranning | Nov 9, 2007 3:59:07 PM

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