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November 26, 2007

A Case of the Mondays: List of Most Overrated Things

I wrote this note on Facebook while feeling somewhat contrarian. My rule here is that everything has to have a large number of defenders, and as small as possible a number of detractors. Of course everything here is culture-dependent; when a category makes sense only within a specific culture, I went with the West, or the United States.

Literature: Shakespeare. If they read Dan Brown in four hundred years, they'll consider him profound, too.

Leaders: Churchill. He had a forty-year career as a military adventurer and an unabashed imperialist, and even during World War Two, he engaged in futile attempts to preserve the British Empire. And Giuliani, who took credit for things others did, and screwed up the few things that did fall under his responsibility.

Political movements: economic populism. It's more often than not a cover for authoritarianism; the sort of leaders who help the poor the most are moderate social democrats like Roosevelt and Lula, not firebrands like Huey Long and Hugo Chávez. And new atheism, whose leaders openly express their political cluelessness.

Political issues: the Israeli/Palestinian conflict. Israel and Palestine have ten million people between them; Congo has sixty, Myanmar fifty, and Sudan forty. Nice priorities, people.

Linguistics: the universal grammar. Every time a language violates it, Chomskyite grammarians incorporate its additional rules into their universal grammar, as if falsifiability has gone out of style.

Science: evolutionary psychology. It's essentially a political reaction to academic Marxism, and about as rigorous as you'd expect from a politicized science.

Economics: Amartya Sen. Countries that follow his prescriptions may avoid famine, but none of them has achieved first world status. And Milton Friedman, whose economic prescriptions didn't actually cause famine, but came fairly close to that in Chile.

Social science: fill-in-the-blank studies. If e.g. gender studies departments were really about studying gender relations rather than making feminists feel good, there wouldn't be controversy whenever one of them appointed a male chair.

Philosophy: Peter Singer. His presentations about poverty and animal rights are as deep as my seventh grade geography textbooks, and about as interesting.

Popular science: ScienceBlogs. Politics gets more hits than science, so ScienceBlogs recruits screamers rather than interesting popularizers or important scientists.

Music: Elvis Presley. Even Britney Spears is less flashy and more talented.

Television: 24. Every season has been the worst season so far. Lost, which is a laundry list of clichés and plot holes. And Seinfeld, where the acting is so bad I could probably do better, and the writing is even worse.

Food: anything at a fancy restaurant. I'll grant fancy restaurants that they're tastier than McDonald's, but they're not any healthier, and they have nothing on small delis or homemade food.

Media: punditry. If I want someone to tell me how to think, it's easier to just look up his issue profile than to read his fact-free tirades.

Books: political advocacy. See under media. George Lakoff deserves singular scorn for his armchair analysis of conservatism, but none of the others is much better.

Academics: core curricula. If you care about something you'll take a class in it voluntarily; if you don't, you'll forget everything you learned five years down the line. And private schools at all levels, for being twice as expensive as equally good public schools.

Posted by Alon Levy at 07:39 AM | Permalink

Comments

So you have the spine to express your irrelevant opinions on Elvis -- no matter what you say, he has been far more influential than Britney Spears.

Posted by: Albert Meier | Nov 27, 2007 5:20:42 AM

"overrated" and "underrated" are more judgments about intrinsic quality than historical importance or influence, I think. So, acknowledging that Elvis had a huge influence doesn't mean you can't also think he's completely overrated as an artist.

Posted by: Jesse M. | Nov 27, 2007 5:43:21 AM

I don't know if most historians would agree that the strategy was basically sound and that it was just the failure to provide enough troops that doomed the campaign, though.

"Most" historians assume, along with Kitchener, that the Western Front was decisive and that anything elsewhere was a sideshow. Which only goes to show their deplorable grasp of grand strategy.

The best objection I've seen is that Churchill's plan underrated the Turks, and that even a surprise seizure of Constantinople wouldn't have thrown Turkey out of the war - you might have had their nationalist revival earlier, under the impetus of infidel invasion.

But against the tremendous potential of keeping Russia in the war, going on the defensive in the West, and sparing the Allies the Somme, 4th Ypres, etc., it was certainly worth giving it a good try, which Churchill's colleagues wouldn't do.

(Note that while I admire Churchill, I agree he's overrated - he gets treated as the master statesman of the 20th century if not all time, which is simply too much. I would put FDR above him, for instance.)

Posted by: Anderson | Nov 27, 2007 9:13:30 AM

Re Jesse M

1. It wasn't a question of not supplying enough troops. It was a question of supplying no troops, leaving the whole exercise as a navel bombardment. Apparently, he had an exaggerated opinion of the efficacy of navel gunfire, just as latter day bomber enthusiasts have an much exaggerated opinion of the efficacy of strategic bombing campaigns.

2. I would agree that Churchill was wrong to approve the navel bombardment alone after the troop allocation was rejected. As it turned out, the bombardment did silence the guns of the forts; the damage done to the British fleet was accomplished by mines. However, without occupying the forts, the silencing could only be temporary.

Re Anderson

Given the weakness of the Ottoman Government in Turkey at the time, for which Turkey was known as the sick man of Europe, it is quite possible that a successful operation would have led to a collapse of that Government and Turkeys' exit from the war. At any rate, Mr. Anderson is absolutely correct that a combined land/navel operation on Turkey carried much more promise then the slaughter on the Somme or the horror of Ypres.

Posted by: SLC | Nov 27, 2007 9:56:32 AM

Isn't there something about "making a (use superlative here) of all time" list when you've run out of ideas? On one publication that I worked with it was a common space filling tactic. Lists always take up more page space than straight, paragraphed prose- all that bulleting and space eating formatting. The hack in me approves.
Second frivolous point; something can be truly good and over-rated. It's inevitable when one speaks in loosely defined superlatives; it goes with the territory.
Third even more frivolous point; there are a few of Alon's judgments that I agree with but a future where people still read Dan Brown and listen to Britney Spears- that's real scary! However, he sure filled up the comment box.
Lastly; so what about a list of the most under-rated things?
Not to get all "rose on a slag-heap" about it but anyone can kvetch about the things they hate. I keep coming back to 3QD not just to read the latest stuff about intrinsically cool stuff (and important, serious things too)but because it's so much about people digging around in things they, dare I say it, love. Know what I'm sayin'?

Posted by: Pete Chapman | Nov 27, 2007 12:12:56 PM

Such is the case for me, Jesse.

I can acknowledge Elvis Presley's success yet, does that necessarily mean I enjoy his music?

I just think that opinions should have some tangibility to them before they are expressed.

"So you don't like Elvis or Britney? You should. They allow you to be nonconformist!"

Posted by: Albert Meier | Nov 27, 2007 1:42:52 PM

You forgot the WNBA.

Posted by: Headhunter | Nov 27, 2007 2:19:02 PM

Mr. Levy's comments on Peter Singer show an incredible lack of depth or understanding of the history of applied ethics. Contrary to what Mr. Levy appears to believe, an idea need not be complex to be interesting, influential, or life-changing. Mr. Singer's ideas of personhood (largely based on Jeremy Bentham and Derek Parfitt) and their application to animal rights (his own, enormous contribution) are discussed in literally every philosophy program in the United States. Literally. Likewise, his views on the ethical ramifications of poverty and our lack-of-response--most notable, "Famine, Affluence, and Morality"--were and are hugely influential works that largely have little legitimate criticism even today. Most of the criticism is of the Thomas Nagel, "this is clearly unsatisfactory"-type--meaning that the author doesn't like that the conclusions oblige him to change his life but cannot justify not doing so, other than saying it is "unsatisfactory."

It's unfortunate that Mr. Levy feels a need to opine about subjects he is not expert in nor minimally understands, especially in such an otherwise well-regarded forum as 3QD.

-m.

Posted by: mario | Nov 27, 2007 3:49:32 PM

Thank you Mario for pointing this out. I had spent enough time addressing the callow and silly comments about Shakespeare and Chomsky that I forgot that Singer was also included. But you are of course entirely correct about Singer's place in twentieth-century philosophy in general and ethics in particular.

Isn't there something intrinsically debasing about even having to say this? Were this just some undergraduate chat room it would be better to let it go, but this is after all an intellectual blog.

I think Abbas and Robin have pretty much voted with silence on this one, since they usually rise to the defense of columns they think are worth defending. Again, perhaps it's time to take back the blank check offered to anyone with a Columbia connection.

Posted by: Jonathan | Nov 27, 2007 4:26:36 PM

Is this really serious? If it is, you should do a little research about Lula before saying that he is moderate and helps the poor.

He desrespects democracy in many ways and his government is very corrupt.

Posted by: fe | Nov 27, 2007 8:09:53 PM

Alec Costandinos | Nov 26, 2007 4:59:18 PM wrote:
"Yes Anna, and I suppose 'some of your best friends are Jewish'?"

I am Jewish, as is my family, and as are a number of my friends. If you would like to meet more Jews who think like me, email me, I would be happy to point you to more resources.

Posted by: Anna | Nov 27, 2007 11:23:56 PM

Levy obviously posted a polemic. He spelt it out for you:

"I wrote this note on Facebook while feeling somewhat contrarian. My rule here is that everything has to have a large number of defenders, and as small as possible a number of detractors."

As I stated earlier, Levy should seriously consider adding 'excessively negative people' to his list.

To safedean:

You're on target. I'd get reactions similar to the ones here if I posted quotes from "On the Genealogy of Morality" to, say, 'Focus on the Family' forums. Actually...I think I've found a new hobby :)

Posted by: B | Nov 28, 2007 6:28:35 AM

B,

The list was "excessively negative." The people who attacked the list were being positive.

So there.

Posted by: B + 1 | Nov 28, 2007 10:15:46 AM

Is this some sort of flat-earth society koan to make us ponder the subjectivity of truth and aesthetics and such? Or are you just being a prat?

Posted by: zen | Nov 28, 2007 12:41:04 PM

While skimming through the list, my mind read "fleshy" for "flashy" on Britney vs. Elvis. Which, come to think of it, is also true.

Posted by: peggy | Nov 30, 2007 3:54:12 PM

Japonya'da Kyoto Üniversitesi'nde 1'den 9'a sayıların öğretildiği 5 yaşlarında 3 şempanze ile 12 gönüllüye.

Posted by: oyunlar1 | Dec 4, 2007 1:54:46 AM

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