Beyond the expected "Bush Derangement Syndrome" Mr Roth said one thing interesting to me in comparing the opposition groups during the Vietnam and Iraq war eras. He said "...talking to any number of people...I've never heard people so despairing"
I agree with that. I also wonder if the fact that we who were college students during the Vietnam era were still imagining that a global spread of communism would be a good for the world (and that the real propagandists were those spreading lies about the workers paradise aborning in the east), which lent hope to the struggle. Those who now pine for the failure of the Bush regime's adventures in the Middle East cannot completely insulate themselves from the notion that the forces there who wish to spread over the globe will decidedly not usher in an era of shaggy haired intellectual coffee shop bonhomie.
So what can you do but despise the man who seeks only to maintain but for a little while your rights to do just that, or to be gay, or to write about masturbation...and dispair?
Posted by: Carlos | Sep 29, 2007 1:25:24 PM
The real Part 2 is here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=351Ggfh0FZ0
Posted by: Nelson | Sep 29, 2007 2:46:07 PM
Thanks, Ghostman and Nelson, I've fixed it. Sorry about that...
Carlos, are you so caught up in your reverie that you cannot see what is the state of the union? Debt all around, illegal aggressive war, the enormous transfer of wealth to the military-industrial complex. . .I could go on. Even Fukuyama has recanted his puerile views. Get out more, please!
Posted by: Kim | Sep 30, 2007 12:00:05 PM
What a great writer, to concisely describe the depressing realities of today.
We are in perilous times. We are all guilty of inaction. We allowed these "monsters" to take our rights with barely a whimper.
Posted by: writebite | Sep 30, 2007 12:04:08 PM
Carlos you poor frightened little boy. The islamofascists who live in THAT country you called "Themiddleast" are coming and you have nothing but George Bush to protect you and homosexuals and masturbation too, Oh my.
It sounds like your screwed lil'buddy.
Just imagine George Bush as the defender of the rights of Americans, straight or gay.
OK that's not working is it. It's like trying to fit a cats head on a fish wearing a codpiece.
Do you know what it is that you pine for Carlos, and you do pine so?
You wish reality would just go away or at least conform to your cartoon fantasy of Bush as a great leader and then everything would be WONDERFUL.
THAT'S NOT REALITY CARLOS.
Bush is a failure in every way and his wars, all of them so far, are disasters. (NOLA too.)
Vietnam was also a disasterous mistake which was prolonged by the lie that if we didn't stop them there, they would follow us home.
Old, worn out lies Carlos.
Those shaggy haired intellectuals WERE JUST AS RIGHT THEN AS THEY ARE NOW.
I know people like you Carlos and I know exactly how you can stand being wrong over and over again.
It's that you never admit it even when your caught red handed with the evidence in your face. Your sure your wrong buth like Bush himself, the admission of being wrong about anything is too much for such a weak human being.
The failure and disgrace and death keeps rollin along. Stay warm in la la land.
Posted by: mparker | Sep 30, 2007 12:54:26 PM
Carlos, thanks for that erudite reverie, but what does the bush administration have in mind for catching Bin Laden?
How has their so called war on terra reduced terror?
How has the destruction of the bill or rights aided the war on terra?
Back in the day the folks that rejected the 5 o'clock follies also rejected the quaint notion that military solutions were the only soulutions....
look around you, we progressives don't think world domination by radical Islam is a GOOD thing, but diplomacy and smart peace corp like projects AND smart intelligence WILL defeat the terrorists, NOT bombing them back into the stone age.....
Posted by: tomdem55 | Sep 30, 2007 1:00:51 PM
Bush Derangement Syndrome. Is that recognized by the AMA? No, so stop using it. Do you not recognize we don't to "wish" for such disasters-and how DARE you suggest that we are-disaster has already occurred and it is ongoing-there is no end in sight given the accommodationist Dems and an increasingly unhinged and unchecked President. Wake the fug up Carlos.
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Abbas, both videos are actually part 1.
Posted by: ghostman | Sep 28, 2007 8:20:42 PM
Beyond the expected "Bush Derangement Syndrome" Mr Roth said one thing interesting to me in comparing the opposition groups during the Vietnam and Iraq war eras. He said "...talking to any number of people...I've never heard people so despairing"
I agree with that. I also wonder if the fact that we who were college students during the Vietnam era were still imagining that a global spread of communism would be a good for the world (and that the real propagandists were those spreading lies about the workers paradise aborning in the east), which lent hope to the struggle. Those who now pine for the failure of the Bush regime's adventures in the Middle East cannot completely insulate themselves from the notion that the forces there who wish to spread over the globe will decidedly not usher in an era of shaggy haired intellectual coffee shop bonhomie.
So what can you do but despise the man who seeks only to maintain but for a little while your rights to do just that, or to be gay, or to write about masturbation...and dispair?
Posted by: Carlos | Sep 29, 2007 1:25:24 PM
The real Part 2 is here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=351Ggfh0FZ0
Posted by: Nelson | Sep 29, 2007 2:46:07 PM
Thanks, Ghostman and Nelson, I've fixed it. Sorry about that...
Posted by: Abbas Raza | Sep 29, 2007 2:55:00 PM
Carlos, are you so caught up in your reverie that you cannot see what is the state of the union? Debt all around, illegal aggressive war, the enormous transfer of wealth to the military-industrial complex. . .I could go on. Even Fukuyama has recanted his puerile views. Get out more, please!
Posted by: Kim | Sep 30, 2007 12:00:05 PM
What a great writer, to concisely describe the depressing realities of today.
We are in perilous times. We are all guilty of inaction. We allowed these "monsters" to take our rights with barely a whimper.
Posted by: writebite | Sep 30, 2007 12:04:08 PM
Carlos you poor frightened little boy. The islamofascists who live in THAT country you called "Themiddleast" are coming and you have nothing but George Bush to protect you and homosexuals and masturbation too, Oh my.
It sounds like your screwed lil'buddy.
Just imagine George Bush as the defender of the rights of Americans, straight or gay.
OK that's not working is it. It's like trying to fit a cats head on a fish wearing a codpiece.
Do you know what it is that you pine for Carlos, and you do pine so?
You wish reality would just go away or at least conform to your cartoon fantasy of Bush as a great leader and then everything would be WONDERFUL.
THAT'S NOT REALITY CARLOS.
Bush is a failure in every way and his wars, all of them so far, are disasters. (NOLA too.)
Vietnam was also a disasterous mistake which was prolonged by the lie that if we didn't stop them there, they would follow us home.
Old, worn out lies Carlos.
Those shaggy haired intellectuals WERE JUST AS RIGHT THEN AS THEY ARE NOW.
I know people like you Carlos and I know exactly how you can stand being wrong over and over again.
It's that you never admit it even when your caught red handed with the evidence in your face. Your sure your wrong buth like Bush himself, the admission of being wrong about anything is too much for such a weak human being.
The failure and disgrace and death keeps rollin along. Stay warm in la la land.
Posted by: mparker | Sep 30, 2007 12:54:26 PM
Carlos, thanks for that erudite reverie, but what does the bush administration have in mind for catching Bin Laden?
How has their so called war on terra reduced terror?
How has the destruction of the bill or rights aided the war on terra?
Back in the day the folks that rejected the 5 o'clock follies also rejected the quaint notion that military solutions were the only soulutions....
look around you, we progressives don't think world domination by radical Islam is a GOOD thing, but diplomacy and smart peace corp like projects AND smart intelligence WILL defeat the terrorists, NOT bombing them back into the stone age.....
Posted by: tomdem55 | Sep 30, 2007 1:00:51 PM
Bush Derangement Syndrome. Is that recognized by the AMA? No, so stop using it. Do you not recognize we don't to "wish" for such disasters-and how DARE you suggest that we are-disaster has already occurred and it is ongoing-there is no end in sight given the accommodationist Dems and an increasingly unhinged and unchecked President. Wake the fug up Carlos.
Posted by: TC | Sep 30, 2007 1:06:50 PM
"dispair"?
That's showing those shaggy-haired intellectuals!
Posted by: Gore/Edwards 08 | Sep 30, 2007 6:11:43 PM
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