January 08, 2007
Web of Lies
by Beth Ann Bovino
[For information about 3QD and what we are all about, click here, or here for our main page. Also, after appearing on 3QD, this story was picked up by several news organzations, and even the FBI commented on it. For example, see this from the front page of the NY Daily News.]
A man called the other night and asked to speak with Beth Ann Bovino. Not interested in a conversation about the midterm elections or whether I need a new phone service, I considered “She’s not home”. Instead, I asked "whom may I say is calling?" He said his name (correctly, I had caller ID). He then ran into a series of statements about me: that I live at 304 West XXth Street (I do) and that I have a one bedroom with a fireplace (yes again). He asked if I am renting my place (I’m not). That’s when he told me that someone had placed an ad on Craig’s List in my name.
According to the ad, I live on the 5th floor of an elevator building (an upgrade from my 5th floor walkup). It comes at the low monthly rent of $1500 including utilities. (Later I found out they also had it listed at times for $1190 and $1100.) It has a deli, a grocery store, and a laundry room. I have a washer/dryer in my apartment, so maybe they could have charged more.
I had it delisted from Craig’s list, but decided to apply. I know from experience it’s a pretty nice place, and even at $1500 it’s a steal. I applied to the ad’s email Annbovino@aol.com. Ann Bovino (she said “Beth Ann Bovino is my full name.”) got back to me. She wrote “I have available the apartment but now I'm in Fremont - CA. This is the reason that I want to rent it. To start this deal you have to send me 1 month in advance and I will ship you the keys overnight. You can move in the apt in the same day when you receive the keys.”
She included pictures of "my" home: http://pictures.aol.com/galleries/annbovino. [All photos here are taken from this site.] Aside from the picture of my building, the rest are fiction. The bathroom fixtures received a lot of attention. The tub made it in over half the photos, while the modern faucet got a close up. However, I already have furniture and since there wouldn’t be any moving costs, I asked for a discount if the place comes unfurnished. I also asked if there was anyone else at the building who could show me the apartment? A super or someone else?
Ann Bovino wrote: “I understand your position but the keys are with me and the only option is to ship you the keys. I have an idea for this deal. First you have to send me money on your friend or relative name via MoneyGram because I want to be sure that you are a serious person and you really want to rent my apt. In the same day I will ship you the keys via UPS and after you will see the apt and you make a decision you have to resend the funds on my name for pick up the money.” She generously offered to support all MoneyGram fees. She also cut the rental price to $1400, unfurnished.
I responded that I was concerned about sending money without talking to someone over the phone. The same “I understand your position” piece was sent in reply, but it added “PS. I would love to speak with you by phone but I can't because I'm a deaf-mute person and I am teaching in CA for a deaf-mute school.”
So there it is. I’m a deaf-mute person who moved to Fremont, California to teach deaf-mute children. I understand other people’s positions and will even bend on the price. I may even be able to pro-rate the agreement (though that was unclear). While this was entertaining, my real self got concerned. Ann Bovino reposted the apartment rental. A number of people came by to check out this dream apartment. I let them know just that. It was a dream. And a fraud. I called 311 to find out how to stop this. 311 didn’t have the facts to help much. Though they were supportive, they sent me to the N.Y. State Attorney Local Office, who sent me to Consumer Affairs, who told me, for some unexplained reason, to contact my local post office. However, an intensive internet search gave me some information to act, or at least know what I was up against.
I found out that this kind of fraud is a variation of the “Four-One-Nine” (419) or “Advanced Fee Fraud,” which has been around since the early 1980's and that we have all seen. Emails sent with the SUBJECT: URGENT!!! in the header undoubtedly lead into this kind of fraud. It was dubbed "419 Fraud” after the relevant section of the Criminal Code of Nigeria. Usually it operates as follows: the target receives an unsolicited fax, email, or letter, usually from Nigeria or another African nation (though not always), and contains either a money laundering or other illegal proposal. Or you may receive a Legal and Legitimate business proposal. Variations of Advance Fee Fraud seem endless. At some point, the victim is always asked to pay an Advance Fee upfront.
There are a number of web sites that look into this. One particularly interesting and very funny site is http://www.scamorama.com. Together with the book, scam-o-rama, it is designed specifically for scam busters (or those that support their cause). On their site they ask the question: “Can a scammer pretending to be an orphan from a Sierra Leone mining town find happiness scamming people? Well yeah, if he gets away with it.”
Their research, on an admittedly small data set, suggests disturbing trends: Travel and banking in West Africa are fatal to imaginary people. Airplane crashes have the most fatalities overall, while the Sagbama Express is most dangerous road. They write “the ‘bank customers’- all foreigners (European, Asian, Arab, American) - have died, usually in ghastly (air, motor) accidents. The banks may exist. The victims' names may belong to real people who probably want them back. (I do.) Some names belonged to real people whose tragic deaths were lifted from obituaries. Some victims have died multiple times, not learning from previous experience. Some died from combinations of natural disaster.”
The book and the web site detail the '419' advance fee fraud scam and the damage it does (hundreds of millions of dollars yearly). They also document the people who try to get back at them. On one side are the scammers, those who commit the fraud. Then there are the ‘scambaiters’- those who write back to lead the scammers on with stories and waste their time. There is one scambaiter who actually got money FROM the scammer (about $3). It inspired my game.
It has now been over three weeks since I first heard that my name has been used. Given the stats, my name has now likely been involved in a few more devastating accidents/illnesses/natural disasters. I could suffer still more virtual tragic ends if I do nothing. I contacted the local police department with no luck. However, one web site finally offered a chance to redeem my name. The Internet Crime Complaint Center (IC3) http://www.ic3.gov/faq/ is co-sponsored by the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) and the National White Collar Crime Center (NW3C).
The IC3's mission is to serve as a vehicle to receive, develop, and refer criminal complaints regarding the rapidly expanding arena of cyber crime. The IC3 aims to give the victims of cyber crime an easy-to-use reporting mechanism. The web site receives thousands of complaints each month. The complaints filed are all processed and may be referred to the appropriate law enforcement or regulatory agencies for possible investigation. Ultimately, however, investigation and prosecution are at the discretion of the receiving agencies.
If you’re a victim, keep any evidence you may have relating to your complaint, such as payment receipts, mail receipts, a printed copy of a website, or copies of emails. Keep phone numbers or addresses of anyone connected, either the culprit or other targets. You may be requested to provide them for investigative purposes. While it seems farfetched, there have been arrests. Most recently, the FBI and Spanish police have arrested 310 people in Malaga, Spain in connection with a €100m bogus (email) lottery scam run by Nigerian gangs. The gang also offered rewards for those willing to stash money taken out of Iraq by the family of Saddam Hussein or money found after the 9/11 attacks. It was the biggest 419 bust in history, and may result in drastic reductions of scam mails.
The scammer posted my apartment again. I remain a Californian deaf-mute. As of this date, my horrible airplane or automobile death has not been announced.
Beth Ann Bovino is a new columnist at 3 Quarks Daily. She will be added to our About Us page presently.
Posted by Abbas Raza at 12:02 AM | Permalink







Comments
Beth Ann,
What immediately pops into my mind when I read this is those ads on TV about ID theft where an actor lip syncs to a completely incongruous voice (belonging to the stealer of his/her identity), watching which one has the "couldn't happen to me" feeling. Well, I guess it can! Pretty scary stuff!
Welcome to 3QD, and good going!
Posted by: Abbas Raza | Jan 8, 2007 12:59:13 AM
Beth, its great to see you triumph over such disabilities!!!
Seriously, though, it amazes me to see whow people are always falling for the most ridiculous cons and scams. Is it simply that there are just a whole lot of really dumb people out there, or is there some kind of G-Spot of the mind that con artists, magicians and politicians just know to touch to make our intelligence melt away and our purse strings spring open?
Posted by: aguy109 | Jan 8, 2007 2:57:53 AM
Beth Anne,
your apartment really is a great deal. is it still available? Great piece.
Posted by: Ram Manikkalingam | Jan 8, 2007 6:26:27 PM
Quite a story!
The US Postal Inspectors occasionally get involved in fraud cases, especially if the US Mail is involved; that might be why 311 suggested you contact them. I suspect in this case they would have sent you to the FBI or US Secret Service.
Posted by: Thud | Jan 9, 2007 6:39:00 PM
You should call or email aol.com and have them investigate also because they are hosting the photos. Also, find the IP address in the headers of the scammers email and do a traceroute to find out where they are and call the local law enforcement. I got burned on a yahoo auction and I managed to find the identiy of the person this way and now she's sitting in jail.
Posted by: kraig | Jan 10, 2007 11:15:41 PM
I would be interested in seeing the apartment, it sounds like a great place.
Posted by: paul | Jan 10, 2007 11:23:05 PM
aguy109,
Read over what you just wrote. Now read over the article. If you had read the Craigslist ad -- would you have thought it a scam? Ah -- you say, when you email the person and hears that she's a "deaf mute" then you'd know it was a scam. But that's not the question, you emailed the person, and thus you were already "fooled." Do you think the Craigslist ad was all that "ridiculous"? Try to be a little less full of yourself in the future and try to imagine that if there are a "lot of" dumb people out there, perhaps you are one of them.
Posted by: notaguy109 | Jan 10, 2007 11:24:54 PM
You need to check your credit reports and insure they aren't impersonating you in other ways. They know your name, and street address, what other info do they know that you don't know they know. You know.
Posted by: anon | Jan 10, 2007 11:33:30 PM
Ugh, where to begin. First off, I'm a relay operator, which means I have to make phone calls for deaf people all day, but then I also have to make phone calls for people using the ip relay system. That's where my headache starts. I can't tell you how many times I've had to say "oh, well, I can't call you on a regular phone because I'm deaf and/or mute and you should just send me a bunch of money and I won't steal from you, I promise." It's so gosh dern frustrating because there's actually nothing I can do to stop the phone call (unless I want to get fired) and I just have to keep the call going as long as both parties are still on the phone. Unless it meets certain criteria, the call must go on. And don't get me started on the stupid prank calls. I hate my job.
Posted by: Lincoln | Jan 10, 2007 11:36:41 PM
A great site for scam-baiting is: http://www.419eater.com/
The guy has managed to get real money from some of them.
Posted by: Nick | Jan 10, 2007 11:44:47 PM
FYI, I'm Deaf. I had been to California School for the Deaf in Fremont. Nobody there identified themselves as "deaf-mute". In fact, that term is very offensive to many of us.
It is obvious that a hearing person impersonated as Deaf person, trying to con others using the "deaf-mute" status. Effectively making us look bad or worse.
It is shame, though, but there are many hearing people taking advantage and abusing Deaf people's reputations to make money.
I will bet $1 that this person is hearing, not Deaf. So keep in mind that it is your kind that did this, not us. :-)
Cheers,
R-
Posted by: The One and Only Ridor | Jan 10, 2007 11:45:58 PM
Deaf/mute people can still use a TTY or "relay" service to communicate with other hearing/speaking deaf/mute people.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relay_Service
See what happens if you request the use of such a service, might be good for a further laugh.
Posted by: David Lo Pan | Jan 10, 2007 11:54:34 PM
Just tragic.
Posted by: N-Word | Jan 11, 2007 12:04:02 AM
Hey R-
I don't think anyone reading this story actually believed that the scammer is really either deaf or mute.
No one is blaming deaf-mute people in general.
Posted by: Jim | Jan 11, 2007 12:10:25 AM
The reason the post office could be involved is this: if you mail money to the person supposedly renting your apartment it is mail fraud on their part when they accept the payment.
Clearly they are selling something to you via the post they have no intention (or ability in this case) of delivering.
So by all means if the post office in her neighborhood wants to have someone arrested for mail fraud go ahead and send the faux you a registered or certified letter (gotta have a paper trail) for some amount you agree to ahead of time.
Posted by: David | Jan 11, 2007 12:36:18 AM
R (Ridor) "I will bet $1 that this person is hearing, not Deaf. So keep in mind that it is your kind that did this, not us. :-)"
"Your Kind"? That's great.
Posted by: harry | Jan 11, 2007 12:47:06 AM
To R:
We all know that deaf-mute people are dishonest.
Posted by: Jay Tee | Jan 11, 2007 12:48:42 AM
Also see http://4wisemonkeys.com/dc-phone/scam/ - Thanks to the efforts of some friends and I we managed to shut down a phone scam in Australia with the help of the media!
Posted by: Michael Skelton | Jan 11, 2007 1:05:05 AM
Beth Ann,
If you're single, how about splitting the rent with me?
Posted by: AlphaPapa | Jan 11, 2007 1:25:30 AM
Another great scambaiter site is EbolaMonkeyman.
Posted by: Bulbboy | Jan 11, 2007 1:26:18 AM
Hey there--
Great story. Since I live near Fremont and am going there in the next couple of days, I'd love to visit this particular deaf-mute school. :> You can offer this person the chance to see me? Although I suspect blindness may soon enter the equation....
Posted by: sean | Jan 11, 2007 1:33:04 AM
I got an email from them and reported them to that ic3 link that you gave- I got to it from the FBI site...
I'm worried they're somehow going to use my name and info that they got off my email! :(
Posted by: Anonymous | Jan 11, 2007 1:41:38 AM
Why don't you email Bizzaro-Beth back and say that for some reason (bank problem, money-wiring problem, et cetera) you can only send money in increments of $1000, so in order for you to pay "she" would have to send you $600 first, and then you could send her 2 grand? Of course, it wouldn't work, but it'd be funny to see "her" response.
Posted by: T | Jan 11, 2007 1:44:28 AM
yo,
1500 for an apt? that's insane. you need to move out of the bay area.
by the way, i'm typing this with my chin. i'm a deaf-mute-fingerless blogger who has an apt in vancouver for you, if you're interested.
Posted by: deafmute | Jan 11, 2007 3:12:02 AM
The FBI will not help out. They have a minimum financial loss limit. (Something like $50,000 or so I think.)
Posted by: Oh No | Jan 11, 2007 3:29:26 AM
notaguy
I did say "Magicians and politicians just know to touch to make OUR intelligence melt away " The word 'our' is admitting that I'm one of the patsies. I once bought a washing machine which was supposed to work without electricity, just because the girl who demonstrated in the store was very pretty. I got neither her phone number nor cleaner clothes! When I read the story, sending money to someone I've never seen for an appartment I've never visited seems way out, but if I was the person about to be conned, the con man might know exactly the right pitch to fool me. Clearly, the 'deaf-mute' ploy is an attempt to get at the 'mark' by arousing his sense of pity or social conscience.
Posted by: aguy109 | Jan 11, 2007 4:56:22 AM
I actually met 419 scammers in person a couple of years ago. They were suppose to be investors, and after flying to Paris to meet with them, they tried a 419 deal. I told them that they better not have brought me on a 5000 mile journey to hear that rubbish because that was not the deal we had already laid out. So then, get this, they tried to get me to help them launder millions of counterfeit Euros.
I contacted the Department of Justice, InterPol, several other agencies. Not a single one so much as looked into the matter or bothered to reply. Good luck getting anything done about this situation.
Posted by: Jerry | Jan 11, 2007 6:00:14 AM
Oh man...I wish somebody would do that to me so that I'd have a great story to tell for the next ten years. There again...
Posted by: Malcolm Lambe | Jan 11, 2007 7:58:19 AM
Ah yes, sounds familiar. Had the same about a year ago...
Wish I had picked it up this way, instead of reacting in a furious way...
Posted by: Gerben | Jan 11, 2007 8:34:03 AM
Dear Beth,
Just wanted to say Thanks for making this leasing process such a dream! To be honest, I was a little wary of dealing with someone from craigslist because I hear there are alot of shady people there. I always trust my instincts and could tell just from your first email and your work teaching other deaf-mutes that you are good people. The quickness with which you cashed my deposit check only cemented in my mind that you were ready to do this deal right now. I hope you didn't mind that I included the 1st months rent as well. I figured you would see that I was also serious. Oh and thanks for fedexing the keys so quickly. They should be here tomorrow, but I haven't had a chance to track the package yet LOL! I won't actually get a chance to get over to the apt until next week because I'll be out of town. But it will be nice to know that my new place is waiting when i get back. I'm so excited, thanks again. I'll be in touch next week to let you know how it went.
Posted by: Tenant | Jan 11, 2007 9:07:12 AM
Hi Beth, it's me again and I just went to the fedex website and I must have written the tracking number down wrong because there isn't a package with that number. I'm sure that in all the excitement I just goofed it LOL! So anyways, if it isn't too much bother, could you please email the number again? Oh and i see aol hasn't changed a bit. I tried to email you but it got sent back. I used to have aol too and i hated it. I'll try again in a little while.
Sorry for the bother.
Posted by: Tenant | Jan 11, 2007 9:16:44 AM
Greetings and salutations,
I am contact you because very great situation arise in my country introduction myself am Mustaffah Dhomp and I am deaf/mute and have result of recent accident small apartment to rent out. I would have in my country but I must use forayn bank account to put into money $30,000,000,000. I contact you because you are very honest and good person. Address of apartment is 1600 Pensilvania Avenue and I send you keys but you will have to shout very loud. All I need to complete is bank account details your and small deposit and I send you keys in the post.
Maybe.
Posted by: citygent | Jan 11, 2007 9:29:18 AM
The US Postal Service has been making inroads on raising awareness of internet fraud, wire fraud and mail fraud. Raising awareness is really the only effective preventative tool. They offer FREE DVDs outlining in a CSI/Law & Order minidrama style, things to look for and questions to ask. I recommend them for any consumer who wants to be more tuned in to what the criminals know.
Posted by: Vasi | Jan 11, 2007 9:31:03 AM
Thanks to everyone for responding. Thanks, also, to those who added to the list of resources needed to fight these crooks. I don't expect that my complaint will be resolved. But keeping a paper trail may strengthen a case against them, on the off-chance they screw up a later sceme.
Kraig, great to hear you were able to snag someone who tried to defraud you in a Yahoo auction. It's nice to know the law is putting some of them in jail. I will contact aol and look for the IP address.
Posted by: Beth Ann | Jan 11, 2007 9:38:45 AM
since they said "In the same day", I would suspect they do not speak english as 1st language. (My wife is an immigrant and used to make this grammatical error).
It can be damn near impossible to track down their IP, if they're using a web-based AOL e-mail account. You'd have to contact AOL and have them review their IP logs and see where the connection came from... all depends on how many layers they are hiding themselves behind.
Gosh, could being dishonest be so easy? I wonder if they actually got any $$ off anybody.
Posted by: schmeckendeugler | Jan 11, 2007 10:14:02 AM
No offense to people who are deaf and mute or any other disabled people. But why oh why is any term 99% of the world knows offensive? You are differently abled or a small person or some other nonsense. A stewardess is a stewardess and a midget is a midget. Get over yourself. *flame on*
As for the Spanish prisoner, I know someone who responded to the real estate scheme as a possible renter, and he wasn't fooled beyond the first email. I wouldn’t worry about people showing up with bum keys trying to move in. However you should make sure the rest of you hasn't been stolen. Do a credit check on yourself at least.
Posted by: Jack | Jan 11, 2007 10:25:51 AM
Sorry to hear you've become a victim of identity theft.
A good site for more info about 416 scams is http://www.419eater.com/
A great scambaiter story on there is the one about John Boko "The Incredible Shrinking Artwork"
http://www.419eater.com/html/john_boko.htm
Posted by: Lex | Jan 11, 2007 11:28:38 AM
Hi Beth,
First off, I have heard of the post office being very interested in prosecuting fraud. That's probably why you were referred to the post office. If you can get this person to mail something incriminating, or accept something incriminating, that may be just the ticket.
If you let this go on, you may eventually find yourself the target of whoever is dumb enough to get fooled, and your problems will escalate.
1) a news organization may be willing to help you catch this person for the story value -- it would make a great story on internet fraud.
2) You should be persistent with the police department, and go down there in person and call them until they investigate and arrest this person just to get you off their backs.
3) Moneygram may be willing to help, as they do not want themselves associated with fraud either. They will be very familiar with the laws that are involved, and will know who will be willing to investigate this kind of thing.
4) Banks may be able to offer advice or other help because they deal with fraud all the time. They also will be familiar with the laws and who will help prosecute.
Keep trying until you get someone who deals with fraud all the time and is pissed off about the people who got victimized, and is motivated enough to help.
This is "identity theft" because you will be stuck with all the problems that result -- the victims have your name and address and if they are dumb enough to fall for it, they may be dumb enough to blame you.
I have read many stories of people catching the people attempting to defraud them -- you can do it too if you are persistent enough. If this person is able to steal your identity and get away with it once, they may go for more and you may end up with far more to clean up later if you ignore this.
The president started a task force on Identity Theft -- this is the web site:
http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/edu/microsites/idtheft/taskforce.htm
You can get this person, but you need to be willing to push hard to do it. If you don't care about your own fate, think of the person who who finally gets taken -- it will likely be their last bit of money.
Posted by: Sean | Jan 11, 2007 11:32:24 AM
Thanks for your suggestion, T. I was trying to pull more than the $3 cash that one scambaiter was able to squeeze from them and was looking for suggestions. Maybe if I had this posted early I could have used yours, about only sending money in increments of $1000. Would have been fun to try.
By the way, I learned about scamorama long before this happened. The writers had a reading (more like a performance) at Sonny's Bar in Red Hook, Brooklyn, hosted by a friend of mine. If you live in the New York area (or are passing through) and enjoy readings, stop by Sonny's the first Sunday of every month. A nice crowd with good performances.
And if anyone's interested, I'm renting out Sonny's Bar for a small monthly fee of $1600...
Posted by: Beth Ann | Jan 11, 2007 12:01:55 PM
Thanks for the detailed information, Sean. I have been concerned that someone will lose money to these people, and that my credit may also be damaged. I have been delisting any new posting that pops up. They keep changing it slightly so they're hard to catch. The crooks have offered a way to give would-be renters and supposedly 'safe' way to send the money to under their friend's name. Im sure they have some way to cash the moneygram with some false ID. I havent contacted Moneygram, but will do so.
Posted by: Beth Ann | Jan 11, 2007 12:11:43 PM
This wouldn't be the Beth that did some work for a system called MIS at an engineering firm in NJ would it? I read the summary of this on digg and noticed the name and thought to myself, no way could this be the one and same person I inherited my workload from ;) .. Sorry to hear about the attempt at scamming your name but like others have said keep up with going after them and you should have some resolution.
Posted by: Damien | Jan 11, 2007 3:24:01 PM
Jack: Because "deaf-mute" has been associated with "deaf and dumb" which plagued thousands of Deaf individuals who felt that the terms restricted their abilities to live their own lives.
It is like the "n-word". Dig it?
Harry, it is true -- I regard hearing people as YOUR kind -- you started wars, you started many things that not Deaf person would have done. We created better things in life -- Thomas Edison is deaf, Beethoven is deaf and Vincent Cerf is deaf.
What did you do? Invented guns and nuclear weapons? So much for your KIND.
:-)
Cheers,
R-
Posted by: The One and Only Ridor | Jan 11, 2007 5:34:01 PM
Perhaps you should have strung her along a little more - you know, for our entertainment. ^_^
Tell her "I went by and there is someone living in that apartment pretending to be you!"
Such fun.
Posted by: MrPeach | Jan 11, 2007 6:52:35 PM
Jay Tee - thanks for showing your ignorance.
Posted by: Vez | Jan 11, 2007 8:08:03 PM
Please, please, before you attempt to reverse scam, log onto the forums at 419eater and ask for advice - scammers can be extremely dangerous and you can be traced via an IP address and other info, its very easy - a lot of scammers also have contacts in western countries, and its likely that they will know someone who is near to you. Please, please don't enter into scambaiting unless you know what you are doing and you are absolutely certain that you are untraceable. People have been killed, kidnapped and beaten up by 419 scammers before now, its not worth risking your safety.
Posted by: Blue | Jan 12, 2007 1:23:58 AM
Hi,
My friend heard your story on 1010 WINS this morning, and immediately called me! In November/December last year (2006), I was in contact with this woman (or man), and she said word for word the same things to me that she (or he) said to you. I have email documentation of it all. I didn't send the money, of course, because it was way too sketchy..but, I did try to find other postings and flag them. She (he) changes the email address everytime. If you need any help or evidence from me as a witness in the future, please do not hesitiate to ask.
Margaret Chaney
Posted by: Margaret Chaney | Jan 12, 2007 10:23:57 AM
Get Craigslist involved. Now. They made all sorts of noises over the past two years about the horrible state of the NYC rental market, Craig came from SF to meet with the Real Estate Board of New York, etc. They swore up and down that they were going to start charging to weed out the scam artists, etc.
If you go onto Craigslist nyc and post in the abuse/help section, someone will see it and get in touch.
Posted by: 11222_res | Jan 12, 2007 1:43:15 PM
I had something similar happen to me about 3 years ago. I contacted the Secret Service and FBI field offices here and New York and within a day I had detectives and agents hunting the IP addresses of the perps in question.
I also spoke on the phone with Craig from craigslist and he was amazingly helpful.
Good luck to you...
_E
Posted by: edEx | Jan 12, 2007 5:30:11 PM
I'd like to report that, thanks to Abbas and the three quarks audiance, this situation has received allot of attention by the press. It is getting covered in both local and national news to help warn people looking for a place to live in NY. Regulatory agencies may also be more active in their search. Many thanks for your help!
Posted by: Beth Ann | Jan 12, 2007 5:55:08 PM
Actually Ridor is the only Deaf Mute I know. Dumb & Deaf too. SSDI bum who can't get a job because he manages to personally offend every single person he comes across.
Posted by: Scott Bradley | Jan 13, 2007 7:17:24 AM
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