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March 16, 2006

Noam Chomsky, Lawrence Krauss and Sean M. Carroll

Matt Donnelly in Science and Theology News, via Cosmic Variance:

Science & Theology News asked three leading scientists – Noam Chomsky, Lawrence Krauss and Sean M. Carroll [close friend of 3QD from the beginning!] -- to comment on topics in science-and-religion as well as in popular culture. What follows are their answers...

ON STEVEN JAY GOULD AND “NON-OVERLAPPING MAGISTERIA"

060301_chomskyCHOMSKY: Steve Gould [was] a friend. But I don’t quite agree with him [that science-and-religion are “Non-Overlapping Magisteria”]. Science and religion are just incommensurable. I mean, religion tells you, ‘Here’s what you ought to believe.’ Judaism’s a little different, because it’s not really a religion of belief, it’s a religion of practice. If I’d asked my grandfather, who was an ultra-orthodox Jew from Eastern Europe. ‘Do you believe in God?’ he would have looked at me with a blank stare, wouldn’t know what I’m talking about. And what you do is you carry out the practices. Of course, you say ‘I believe in this and that,’ but that’s not the core of the religion. The core of the religion is just the practices you carry out. And yes, there is a system of belief behind it somewhere, but it’s not intended to be a picture of the world. It’s just a framework in which you carry out practices that are supposed to be appropriate.

Laurence_kraussKRAUSS: Science and religion are incommensurate, and religion is largely about practice rather than explanation.  But religion is different than theology, and as the Catholic Church has learned over the years, any sensible theology must be in accord with the results of science.

CarrollCARROLL: Non-overlapping magisteria might be the worst idea Stephen Jay Gould ever had.  It's certainly a surprising claim at first glance: religion has many different aspects to it, but one of them is indisputably a set of statements about how the universe works at a deep level, typically featuring the existence of a powerful supernatural Creator.  "How the universe works" is something squarely in the domain of science.  There is, therefore, quite a bit of overlap:  science is quite capable of making judgments about whether our world follows a rigid set of laws or is occasionally influenced by supernatural forces.  Gould's idea only makes sense because what he really means by "religion" is "moral philosophy."  While that's an important aspect of religion, it's not the only one; I would argue that the warrant for religion's ethical claims are based on its view of the universe, without which we wouldn't recognize it as religion.

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Metaphors/patterns used to explain the universe and the meaning of life can be constructed into subjective or objective realms. It is the latter, the realm of science, that has more practical value and benefit.
The former, the realm of religion, has a spiritual role that's important, but by the very nature of being subjective it cannot be practical outside of the subjective. In other words, a religious metaphor cannot be made into an useful equation that others will experience in the same way.

I think Gould complicated this issue into more high fallutin' language than was needed. But he was on the right page.

Posted by: beajerry | Mar 17, 2006 5:03:12 PM

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